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Blog Entry: 3/25/2006 1:36:01 PM

1st. Please understand you have to purchase two licenses to do such a thing as each installation will need a valid license purchased.

Moving on:

ASPProtect using a industry standard concept called "Forms Based Authentication"

This primarily relies on session variables keeping track of login status.

Each installation must be in it's own unique "IIS Application" so it will have it's own set of application and session variables.

That is often not possible with shared hosting plans as the server admins may not be willing to set a folder in your web as a separate IIS application. You would need to ask. It is going to depend on the quality of your hosting plan whether they do it or not.

technically it takes about 1 minute to open up the "IIS Console" and set up a folder in your web as a separate "application"



Based on what you are telling me that you want to do I think it would make a lot more sense to have one installation and one user database and customize your sites so ASPProtect users that are part of certain "groups" have access to things others do not or see things on pages other users would not. That is after all the entire point of Dynamic web sites and also why ASPProtect has "groups".

Then as far as the registration differences go you would make a copy of the users area folder area and manual customize it to register users in an alternate fashion than the main "users" folder. And then send people there if that is how you want them to register.

I don't support customizations but that is the gist of it. It's really not difficult work, but you have to be good with ASP., [QUOTE=cwilliams]

It should be released sometime late May 2004 or early June 2004 but no gurantees as I am pretty busy right now with some projects.

There will be upgrade instructions and it should be a fairly easy upgrade.

[/QUOTE]

 

Like I said no guarantee... I have a lot of things going on... it might not even be finished till the end of July... customers will always be able to get it for the difference in price

You have the version listed on the site when you purchassed it.
Version 3.0

cwilliams38167.6469328704,



Is there an easy way to make this work with reoccurring a monthly or yearly subscription?

,

you basically have to edit the html in the links in the various pages and remove them... some are in includes files

use a text editor and be causious / back things up before you remove links so you can revert back

,

I'll give it a shot loading it on the laptop and publishing it, if it doesn't work I'll let you know and you can take a look at it tomorrow afternoon.  Thanks for all the help tonight...

Good luck pouring that concrete!

,

There are several pages on my website that a user may go to that are not protected (e.g. home page).  If the user has indicated that they want to be saved on this computer (until they explicitly log off), and their 1st entry point is to an unprotected page, how do I determine whether they have logged in before, and extract the info from the cookie / session variables without forcing them to log in or making the entry page protected?

 

, I see what your saying.. its just hard to troubleshoot something when a  lot of changes have been made.

Did you test things before you started modifying the code ?

If its SQL server it is very important that the database was created with the provided SQL scripts., on that particular page check the session variables manually (not using the include)

that way you are keeping the login access checking to an absolute minimum, elminating any form processing from the login procedure, and keeping the upload script happy

like so

<%
If Not InStr(Session("Groups"),"*1*") Then
    ' do whatever
End If
%>

you could response.write something followed by a response.end

or you might even want to response.redirect them to some other page that using the "check_user_inc.asp" where they can log in

And if you are going to be using a free asp upload script use this one as it is probably the best pure code upload solution available as far as performance goes.

http://www.freeaspupload.net
,

Why all the pages at the directory .../password_admin/ are very slow to open online?

vaghelis38300.5280208333,

Sounds cool.. post info when you get it sorted out

thx

hopefully someday I'll get the new version finished.. I just never seem to have time. Lately ASPProtect takes up all my time and now aspclassifieds seems to be in need of a new version more so than asp photo gallery

 

,

Tony,

ASPBanner.NET was discontinued about 14 months ago. It is no longer supported in any way because quite frankly the classic ASP version is faster, more stable, has more features, and is a lot easier to install and get running.

If you PM me via the forum you are welcome to a copy of the current ASP Unlimited Version. It can serve banners to any type of page extension. All you have to do is ask for a copy.

Whether or not your existing ASPBanner.NET database is exactly the same structure I do not know, but I believe it is. You should compare the two if you plan to keep using the old database and make any neccessary changes so the old database has the exact same structure as the new version. If there are any differences they are very few.

,

Hello,

You are correct regarding what you noticed.. ASPBanner only allows one person to administrate. If if did what you are asking about it would probably cost more.
(you get the ASP source so if you really wanted that you could always add it on your own fairly easily, but it all depends on your skills)

AS for keyword advertising and different ads based on certain pages ASPBanner does not get into that. The main reason being performance as I built ASPBanner primarily as a performance banner rotation solution.
http://support.cjwsoft.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=144& ; ; ; ; ;PN=1

Like that thread says, you could make different zones for different conditions.. then surround the banner calling code with if else logic so a different banner zone was called under certain conditions.

Regardless, if you really need something that has every bell and whistle. BanManPro is where it is at.

cwilliams38434.7100578704, Do what it says so you can see the real error and then post that information here. It could be anything from incorrect permissions to whatever.cwilliams38454.4272916667, thats actually just the xml parser component barfing out on you.. it can't handle the load of being called so much on that server

you might want to try some of the other methods of calling banners, Just want to be able to log users in from the home page via a username and password box somewhere say on the left hand side with a login button. Like most sites have.... i cant seem to figure out how to do that with the software.

My other question is..Is there a way to incorporate this software into an event registry? What i mean is this:

Say a company is having a pool party, BBQ, and tennis lessons (just examples)

When a user registers with aspprotect i want him/her to have the option to register for one of the events. Also, I as the admin, would like to be able to view who and how many registered for each event... Here is what i am talking about (and it has a payment option to charge for an event which would be PERFECT if you could do) http://www.cescripts.com/demo/registration/view-events.php

Please let me know if there is a way to add this option or create...

THANKS!

-Leo

, it makes zero sense really... in the 4 years we have sold this application this is really the weirdest thing anyone has had happen..,

That would not happen unless you added a target to the login form or you're code had a base target set.

Like so..

<base target="_blank">

I would really need more detailed information. It's nothing the system does the way it ships under normal circumstances. For example you shouldn't see that behavior in any of the example protected ".asp" pages

that is unless you have something odd going on with your browser settings or you made changes to the login form or code around it causing it. (or you are using frames and dont have some of the targets and what not set correctly)

My guess is that it has to be something you added or did, but I really need to know more to offer more than that.

 

cwilliams38419.7687152778,

We have been using ASP Protect for a while now and are big fans of the program.  We received ASP Banner 8.2 with our puchase which we now have a need for.  I went to put the files on our webpage, and doing nothing else other than locating the directory there, I noticed differences with how ASP Protect operates.  We have customized it a bit and want to keep the 2 programs separate.  the login screen for one showed up on the other, and some ASP Protect pages appeared altered so i immediately deleted ASP Banner.  did I do something wrong, and how can i ensure the 2 programs work completely independant of each other?  We can't risk braking what we're now using but would really like to add banner functionality to some of our pages.  maybe an update to the program before we install?  puchase new software?  Thanks for your help-

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cwilliams38165.5615277778, Great!  Sounds good Chris.  , I would like to have the ability to give a user 1 album with the default # of photos in it.

Is the best way to implement this to just add in an album creation routine during the sigup/registration process and turn off the ability to create a new album?  Or is a user setting prebuilt into the system for this?
,

For pay signups you set the groups during signup it like this thread tells you to

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo186-1.htm

only difference is you need to specify the groups info like so
(basically getting rid of the commas and just leaving behind the group numbers with a * around everything)

Also be sure to have no double asterisks

so, *1*,*2* would just be *1*2*

so, *1*,*2*,*5* would just be *1*2*5*

cwilliams38460.5969444444, issue resolved.. new files did the trick,

We can't seem to find the purchase emails for this install of ASPProtect.

It would have been in May 2004 for NetOptions LLC or CareerMatrix.com

We noticed it should have been v6 of ASPProtect.

Can you resend the download links?

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hello,

There is no built in option. You would have to add code to do that.
Its not difficult but custimization like that is not something I support.

, Having a quality professionally set up ASP.NET server that is going to support your needs is CRITICAL whether it is yours or someone elses. Them saying they will not set permissions is useless. Quite honestly Network Solutions is a joke when it comes to ASP.NET hosting. They are all about CHEAP MASS HOSTING and that is not where you go when you plan on running complex ASP.NET applications. What good is ASP.NET hosting if you can not permissions set on folders you need it for? A lot of people run ASPProtect.NET and their hosts set permissions for them without issue. We made one folder that they could click on and set all permissions at once easily. If they truly knew anything they would understand that and set permissions for you in a heartbeart. You have to have a correctly set up server or a hosting company that is serious about your ASP hosting needs.

I mean you come to us with this mess of a situation, we tell you its a bad setup. We tell you to rebuild the server correctly or make a new one. Now instead of doing that you come to us with another mess of a situation.  Now you act all frustrated because you have spent so much time on this. How the heck do you think we learned everything we know ? Do you think we have never spent weeks on a problem or stayed up for 4 nights in a row without sleep. That is how you learn and it is called experience. I have no sympathy for someone that complains about how long something took because I am right there with the best of them and I have paid my dues.

Have you by chance read all of this thread below because despite what you keep telling me you are totally falling into this category.
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo234-1.htm
Granted you may not be "Joe Coder" but you are definetly "that guy" who doesn't really know what is going on with ASP.NET. "that guy" who sets up his own server and knows enough to be dangerous. You definetly have enough sense/basic skills to dig around and read articles and try things but when you are on the wrong track that only helps out so much.

Also: I really was pretty tired when I got home last night, but now that I really think about what you did with that webserver/domain controller is about the worst moves possible when it comes to IIS hosting setups.. That is just SO BAD !!  Now, don't think that I haven't done some REAL stupid things in the past. John too, like the time 5 or so years back when thought he could make a Windows XP Pro webserver for serious non development use . Anyway, that is how you learn. I suggest you get your server running correctly (not a domain controller) or you get a real host like www.alentus.com for your asp hosting needs. I mean you can get an account for like 10.00 a month and end all these headaches right now. I even know one of the head techs there as well as the general manager. Their ASP and ASP.NET support is 2nd to none.

You may not like what I have to say, (hell, I can pretty much guarantee you won't) but I tell it like it is and in the long run you will be better off for it.. We spent a ton of time developing the .NET version of this product and we sell it way less than it is worth especially since we provide source code. It is an awesome product, but if the server isn't truly and correctly supporting ASP.NET or they host will not set permissions than it is out of our hands. As far as I am concerned anything else is a waste of everyone's time. I am not going to play that game. Quite frankly, you need to get your stuff together. Nothing you have come up with so far has anything to do with a bug with ASPProtect.NET. Everything has been server related.

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,

It's not working because i guess im copying the viewstate also...and it comes up

Validation of viewstate MAC failed. If this application is hosted by a Web Farm or cluster, ensure that <machineKey> configuration specifies the same validationKey and validation algorithm. AutoGenerate cannot be used in a cluster.

, Actually, as far the "aspprotectnet.dll" file goes it makes sense because of the following.

The "aspprotectlicense.dll" is something we do not provide the source code for. We also do not compile it in "debug" mode because you not want dll's running in "debug" mode in a production environment and we also do not want that dll in debug mode because of reverse engineering reasons.

Now, that being said that DLL is no different than any other 3rd party dll "so to speak" that you would use in a project. Many of which will not be in debug mode and you will also not have the source for.

"Microsoft.Data.Odbc.dll" being an example


Regardless, there must be a way to do what your trying to do. I am just not sure at the moment. It is nothing anyone has brought up before and I personally have never had any issues like that when I work on the application so I am just not sure.

It probably has something to do with the way you set up your project.,

Could be a mod I guess - it would be nice to have an option on the admin settings page to lock down access of all pages and redirect to a specified  "lockdown" page upon attempted login.

If I'm updating the large files on the server and someone attempts a download, they'll get a partial ZIP file or an error.

 

, Oh snap. Tried the blank database and got the same errors. Fixed THE FILE PATHS to conform to the AspProtect 7 setup, and it worked like a champ. I still need to copy and paste the info, but it's working just fine with the ones I add manually.

Moral of the story: FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS TO THE LETTER.
,

thanks.. it was not taken as a complaint.
I just wanted to explain

When you said you tried using the web version of sql manager. Did you use the microsoft one I link to here "just curious"

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo127-1.htm

 

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You would carefully use the built in features of access to import/export data.

The password for our databases is noted in the documentation. It's pretty hard to miss really. You can also see the database password by looking at the connection string info.

different versions may be different but it is usually "temp" minus the quotes

,

It almost seems like allow images is denied.  When I look at the ad it doesn't even show a place where the thumbnail or image would go:

Columns now are Ad Name/ Price / Expires / Hits

There used to be one before Ad Name.

Even unchecked (saved) and checked
Use_Picture_Upload < = value=True name=Use_Picture_Upload> Check this if you will be using the picture uploading feature.

 

 

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The only major usability issue I've found to date is multi-zone banners. Cloning is helpful to a point, but then if you have a change to that banner, you have to make the change 6 times or what have you. I think, even at the expense of speed, multi-zone capability for a single banner would be excellent addition. Of course, that supposes I haven't just missed it and it's already there.

cwilliams38453.6665509259,
Hi,
 
I have a question re ASP Protect, I have got it up and running on a dev server which also hosts a e-com engine (ASP / Access), when users check out they are presented with the e-com log in screen (which is sharing the same ASPP_User table). All's well and registration and editing user details is fine both in the Admin section and the front end of ASP and if I request an email reminder from the ecom scripts I get back the encrypted password.  
 
I'm using <% = Session("Email") %> and <% = Session("Password") %> to populate the fields on the ecom log in page so users can click though and progress, the checkout process needs the username/password, all user info shows up ok, however, when I proceed with these credentials, it doesn't work, even though I know these to be correct and even without requesting a password reminder and using the one that gets me in everywhere else, I still can't get through? do I need some code re the crypto so the ecom can decode??
 
Any help would be great - I've been on it for about 10 hours, and checked through the posts here but can't fathom it out?
 
Thanks Craig
, It is not something I did when I wrote the emailing sub routines. You would have to edit the email sub routine for CDONTS and add something to it most likely. The email sub routines are in the "scripts" folder in the "emailing_subs_inc.asp" file.

I am not sure you can do that when using CDONTS though I think you can do it with CDOSYS. You would have to do some research and edit the code like I mentioned.
, My server is Server2003.  I could not find the folder settings you mentioned.  I did find a iuser which I added as specified.  I retried to perform an upload.   Still same message.  But it does move the JPG to the picture folder.  So, part of it is working. ,

It a generic error that means something is wrong with your data connection.

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo27-1.htm

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo136-1.htm

 

 

,

Can you incorporate a secure log in within the scripting.  I would like the account information to be secure without having to have the whole site using running through a secure (https://) path.  If this is possible, the scripting is perfect!

,

This is a great article from my old powerasp.com site.
Connections And Server Database Permissions

 

cwilliams38084.7458217593,


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