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I am an experienced ASP developer. Can you tell me whether this would be a very involved process, or whether it is pretty straightforward? I don't yet have a merchant account, so I am not yet familiar with any aspect of accepting credit cards online.

Thanks.

, I have added two users in different group access but none of them can login to the pages ,



Probably not... javascript calling complex javascript is not a good thing and is often a problem.

I would try one of the other methods such as the xml parser if possible.

, If it stopped working it has nothing to do with the ASP code. YIf could have stopped for any number of reasons as hosts often change email server requirements and info. You need to go over the email settings. Of course make sure you and the person you are sending to have valid email addresses and try different methods/settings until you get emailing to work again.

Testing it by sending emails off from the users screen.. in each email type in what you are trying at that time so you know what worked if emails make it through. Also, be sure to check junk filters when testing to make sure the emails are not being put in any of those.

That's what I would do. CDOSYS is always your best bet for sending emails as it has so many options and all new server support it. ,

Editing the look of the login page.

In this version editing the look of the login page is very easy.
You can make this login page look exactly like you web site if you like.

You want to edit the "scripts/login_form_inc.asp" file.

It can be edited with any editor as long as the existing bits of server side code in it and the login form remain in tact.

The best thing to do is back it up before you start editing it.
Then if you goof it up you can revert back to the original.

If you edit this page with FrontPage enable the "show all" feature.
Its the little PIE sign in your icons. It will show the server side code as yellow things on the screen so you know where they are and can be careful not to delete them.

see screenshot

cwilliams38448.8132638889,

5300 users honetly wouldn't even phase the database or the code... even with MSAccess...you got other problems and I can say that with 150% certainty

my guess is permissions on the database folder are not quite right or the odbc drivers have issues.. something along those lines..

access databases act up when full modify permissions are not given to the folder they are in.... they can also act up if the odbc drivers are very new and you are not using a newer version of the access database such as 2002 version as opposed to a 97 or 2000 version

using a system dsn as opposed to a dsn-less connection can also cause BIG issues. always use a DSN-LESS connection

you can also have big problems if just the database file is given permissions instead of the whole directory it is in

also, the script timeout has nothing to do with it.. if that is happening something is wrong with the data connection like I said... no amount of changing timeouts is going to cure it...

how permissions are correctly set
http://www.powerasp.com/content/new/windows_2003_server_and_ permissions.asp

why system dsn's with access databases are bad news
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo9-1.htm

I know it worked at 1st but it can still be related to all of this because when permissions are not perfect databases will work ok for a while and then act up. it all has to do with the temporay lock files that access creates and deletes on a regualr basis

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Hi all,

I have the photo gallery set up at www.kashabowieoutposts.com/gallery

It's great - love to work with it.

But I've never been able to get those with just User permissions to be able to upload... Only an administrator is successful in uploading.  This was no problem in the past, but now this client would like to give their guests a means to share their pictures on their site - so now I have to figure out the bug...

... this is the error I keep getting...

Your upload did not succeed, most likely because your browser does not support Upload via this mechanism.

Your browser must support a standard called RFC 1867. Please check with your browser vendor for support of this standard.

 

------- anyone else experienced this?

Many thanks all!!

Doug

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Flash Code Generator

Until I have time to make one I suggest using the one on the banmanpro support site as it is pretty nice.

http://www.banmanpro.com/support/flashgenerator.asp

 

cwilliams38291.6146875, Chris,

Ok new puzzle. I have now managed to gonfigure it to get the admin screen and update members. All excellent news. Seems to work a treat.

But have used the code you give in your getting started guide to add at the very top of an aspx page to be protected. The path is configured correctly I am sure. the aspx file is in the root, the protect program is in a folder now configured as an application (hence the steps forward to get to the admin screens) on the root, so address should be foldrname//protectpage.ascx.

Proble when I load that aspx page is as above. The exact same config error,oww!

I am sure its a setting on my server now, but I dont know what to ask for, Any ideas...

So close now!

Andy
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as far as permissions are concerned I wrote two large articles about permissions that cover everything in detail on how to properly set them

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/info11.htm

see the windows 2003 and windows xp permission threads

From things you are saying I assume this is your server. My comments about the path looking funny are because very few commercial hosts would use the "c:\inetpub\wwwroot\" directory. If you are using that and that is correct info then that is fine.

as for knowing whether or not the filesystem object is working the best thing to do is to try to write  a text file somewhere in your web and see if it works. Testing something under the most basic scenario is the key to troubleshooting asp issues.

http://www.devasp.com/samples/writetofile.asp

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The protection code for my group3 is:

<!-- Begin ASPProtect Code -->
<!-- Groups with access to this page. ( * GP03 * ) -->
<% GROUPACCESS = "3" %>
<!--#INCLUDE FILE="check_user_inc.asp"-->
<!-- End ASPProtect Code -->

btw - sorry but I am using v7
and thanks for the assistance

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Got it working.  Embarrassed  Had purchased a long time ago and forgot about needing to run the userreg.exe.  All is well and thanks for the follow up.

Lance

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I did the initial steps of downloading the sql scripts and running it in Query Analyser, tables created fine.

I can login for the first time. I exit from the browser and then I cannot login again. This happens for every user and admin.
I noticed that the values in the fields "Login_limit" and "Active" in the ASPP_Users table in the SQL changed to NULL and 0 when login and remained in those values after close the browser.

So iam just struck not able to log in. Pls advice.

 

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Is there a simple way to upgrade from 7.x Lite to 7.x Full?  I was testing out the software and I just purchased it.  I have made some look and feel changes to the lite version (ie: login page), but no look and feel changes to the admin section.  Is there certian files that I can add to have the full version without shorting myself features or functionalbity? 

Thanks

,

If logfiles do not get created it is most likely one of 3 things

  1. invalid physical path specified
  2. permisssions
  3. filesystem object is disabled on the server

that path doesn't look correct to me for a live professionally set up server but only you or your server admins can know that for sure

you will not get any errors when things arent perfect.. just no physical logs

RecentActiveUsers and RecentPageRequrests are not related to the stored logfile feature.. Recent Activity is a different thing

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Both the NET and Classic ASP versions of this application are designed for fine granularity protection of individual apsx extension files. ASPProtect.NET is not designed or intended to protect sub directories, or non aspx content such as Adobe Acrobat .pdf files etc etc.

I completely disagree with your statement that “most sites” have a login box on the left hand side of the page. I suspect you thinking of the ever popular php based forums and “Nuke” type CMS systems which are set up that way but if you look at any site written entirely using .NET that’s rarely if ever the case. (Granted I cant say for sure because I personally haven’t looked at >50% of the estimated 18 billion +  web pages on the internet) Just off the top of my head www.CafePress.com come to mind as a pure .NET site. If you take a look the login button it takes you to its own login page there is not global login form used throughout the site. Reason being that .NET introduced this thing called a “view state” which is used to store things like your session ID (and way more) and must be posted back to the server in order to keep track of visitors. This technology comes in especially handy when you have a web farm in place and your content is being spit out out by more than one server at the same time

I can think of loads of scenarios where the web servers need to know who you are even though you are never directly contacting them via http. This approach is a very smooth and actually very clever solution for enterprise level websites that simply can’t be handled with a single web server.

 On a practical level I know what you are saying but that application sets up all sorts of things when a protected page is accessed and the user is not yet authenticated. That’s the entire reason you need to put that snippet of code at the top of a page you want to protect. That code snippet calls the ASPProtect.NET class and runs through all the logic to see if you are able to access the page. If you are the subroutine exits and the server continues to process the remaining logic on the page. AKA you are able to access its content. If you are NOT authenticated ASPProtect will setup all the proper session and viewstate info and redirect you to the login page for authentication. You may have also noticed a parameter on the login page called ReturnURL. The application looks for that info and if you do have a user ID and password the application automatically redirects you to the page you were trying to access in the first place.

Really I have no idea what you are trying to do, but there is a world of difference in how something looks verses how it works. Lets just say there was a simple way to do what your thinking, what are you going to do with that login form after the person logs in? Just keep displaying it on the entire site so people get confused and don’t know if they are logged in or not? Just that little part of the equation will require making some changes to either ASPProtect.NET or your application will have to have some logic built into it to stop displaying the login forum.


It sounds to me like your basically looking for a super simple 101 type deal that allows people to sign up for an event and you the admin can see that information? I’m guessing they can also log in again and check out their details and see what event they signed up for?

If that’s the case you’re trying to take a very sophisticated protection application and downgrade it into something that would be one heck of a lot easier to write all from scratch in about an hour.

Your not going to be able to “plug and play” a simple form into a page and turn that application as a magic universal login solution for a website, while its 100% possible to use the application that way if you choose, you need to check out the source code and plan your custom integration accordingly.



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the reason being is because when I do installs I do not touch any of your existing content. I only install the base application and make sure everything in it working correctly and also that the example protected pages are working. I do not integrate it with your existing site or edit any of your existing web content. That is up to you

sorry about that, but it would be way too time consuming and editing people's existing pages is a good way to cause a lot of headaches for me and the customer if something goes wrong. Not only that but everyone uses the system differently and it wouldnt make sense for me to be the one doing that based on access levels, groups.. etc etc  which will all be custom to how you want things set up.

more on installation policies here.
http://www.cjwsoft.com/installation_service.asp

, This relates to a part of the new documentation that wasn't ready yet.
I just made a thread about it though.

Here you go.
http://support.cjwsoft.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=198& ; ;PN=1&TPN=1 cwilliams38419.5353587963, Sounds crazy. I recently took over this web site and all IT duties. User today said member area was not working. All pages would not display. After restoring some files I got the members area partially working. But I cannot find where the database sits. I am able to get in and view users in the admin are and log in as a member. Thanks., Thanks for the install. After many hours I finally got part of the system working. I can log in and log out as a user. My problem is I want the pages
accesses by Members ONly.  The database will contain the names of the members and only they are allowed access, and no one else.  I tried Joe Blow to log in and it worked, the only thing is Joe was not in the database and he should have been locked out and a page come us saying something like "you are not a registered user, please complete the membership application" and then link back to the root web, application page.
I am also afraid of breaking the codes you provided thus far. I also want the password protected pages in a sub-web of the root web.
This may sound like elementary stuff, but this newbie is having constant trouble.  I am also referencing books on ASP and Access and VB and still come up with a dead end. Search the net and come up with a few codes which are described as something I am looking for, but dont want to add any thing like that for fear of breaking the whole thing.
Any suggestions?
,

ok, I moved this thread..

The code in the ASP application handles all encryption and un-encrpytion of passwords in the database. I uses the vbscript RC4 function and the password encryption key specific to your installation to do this.

The whole idea is that if someone gets your database and opens it up that they will not get the passwords (utilitiies to crack access databases are common and work well so they can easily get by the main password)

That being said when you open the database manually your not supposed to see clear text passwords. Your also not supposed to have an easy way to make them clear text. It's a security thing. 

Though I am not officially supporting it I will tell you what I think would be the easisest way to make an export file with clear text passwords in it.

Use the export fire creator in the admin area of aspprotect.
Mosdify "export.asp"

change

Password = CmdDataExport("Password")

to

Password = RC4(CmdDataExport("Password"), PasswordEncryptionKey)

Then make an export file and see if that worked.
you can then import the export file into and access database or do whatever you like with it.

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OK.  If no return page is set, do they end up on a PayPal confirmation page and have to navigate back to my site by going Back or typing the web address?

Nick

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Hi Chris,

Our company has a big dilemma on how to manage the database for accounts that are expiring/expired.

We saw the function to email a batch of users who are expiring soon but this doesn't help us to complete the renewal process.

Once the email is sent, what happens afterwards? how can we setup the system so that we can renew their expiry dates or accounts without too much hassle?

The system currently doesn't have any renewal functions or to allow batch changes on multiple accounts at the same time so we have to manually edit one account at a time. This is extremely tedious if we have over 1000 accounts to manage (and we will).

If you have anything to suggest on all this I would appreciate it :)

Thanks alot
Sylvain

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All of the fields with the expected paths show the correct file structure, so now I've put them in them in the boxes

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this could go on forever...

if you want PM "private message" me info to log into your site.. show me the pages we are dealing with...

and I will take a look at it all...

CJW

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You should read my article on server side includes… the path to the include file must of course be adjusted depending on where in your web you are.
http://www.powerasp.com/content/code-snippets/includes.asp

You will also notice if you look at the provided example pages that the include paths have been adjusted to make sense.

If it is 2 directories down it should probably look different..

example:)   "../../checkuser_inc.asp"

It’s weird that if you are not getting an error because if the path to the server side include is wrong you should get a nasty server error.

Also..

The ASPProtect system and any pages it protects must also be part of the same Application in IIS. It’s the nature of forms based authentication. Do a google search if you are not sure what an application is in IIS.

Lasty…. If you are logged in at the time

Whether your current session at the site is still active… or you have the cookie set to remember you.

Well, nothing will happen… cause your already logged in and you will just see the page as normal.

Perhaps things are working and you just don’t understand that part ?

You need to go to the log off page.. log off… then close all instances of the web browser windows..

Then come back to the site… then see if it prompts you to log in.

cwilliams38228.9837152778,

You need to make sure you created the SQL database using the SQL scripts we provide and that no errors occur whatsoever. That is extremely important. You must use our SQL creation scripts.

Then, when you create the user you need to go back to that user and make sure you check the admin account and save that user again. (many times when setting up a system for someone I find myself forgetting that step and then I have to go back in and check the admin box for the user I created.)

And of course create the user from the ASPProtect admin area web interface. Do not add the user to the database manually because you will have no way to enter the password correct as it is encrypted. And do not change the encryption key after making the user/.

It would also be wise to check the SQL server database at every step to make sure the user info gets created and that all the field info looks correct for the most part.

You also want to be sure to specify SQL as the database type side the connection string info as the SQL directions go over

a remote sql server should not an issue.

thats really all I can think of right now

,

That would be great.

I am sure you know that many virus that are sent via email have the same property. (double extension). The code can be executed even though Windows identifies them as simple text files etc.

Thanks again

,

Hello,

Yes, that is how it works. Unless you make modifications to the code there is no way to easily do what you are talking about.

If you design the site to be intelligent that scenario should never happen.

For example.. you should only be offering links to pages that the current logged in user has access to. You do this by checking the session variables and with simple if-else logic around your html links.

It requires some work but if you dont give them links to pages they dont have access to what you are talking about will not happen.

Here are some simple examples.

Here is an example using access levels.

<%
If Session("Access_Level") = "1"  Then
' show links to pages that allow access level 1
End If
%>

And one for groups..

<%
If Instr(Session("Groups"),"*6*") or Instr(Session("Groups"),"*7*") Then
' show links to pages that allow groups 6 and 7
End If
%>

cwilliams38354.0786921296,

yea.. it sounds like aspimage is not working right.

You wont get any errors..

I would suggest using some of aspimage's sample asp pages in your web and see if they do their thing. You need to be sure aspimage is working correctly under the ,ost simple of circumstances

Though ASPImage is the standard in ASP image resizing and has been around forever and it works very well. Their support is almost non-existant.. in 6 years they have never answered any email I have sent them. I have sent them 6 or so over the years and then just stopped trying. I bought a server bundle too way back then for like 300.00 or so when we had a company called gisco. You would think they could answer my emails. I think that guy just made a ton of asp components back in the day and then just took a seriously long vacation. Updated them a few times in between when he felt like it and making good money the whole time.. More power too him I guess. I'd love to be in his shoes when he sells an enterprise license for 3000.00. Maybe he isn't even around anymore and the someone he knows just kept the sales going. Who knows..

Anyway... it does a great job when ya get it working.

Personally this is how I install it and it works every time.
I like to put their dll in the system32 folder.
Register it.
Run their licensing prog to make it a full version if you paid for it yet.
Right click on the dll and give the "everyone" account modify permissions
Right click on the "windows/temp" folder and give it the same permissions

, One of my users is looking to do mass updates (multiple records). He wants to be able to update the "Expiration Date" for a group of users who work for the same company. ,

so, on control_pics.asp where you see

<% =TempDesc %>

you could try doing this instead

<% =Replace(TempDesc,"&nbsp","") %>

 

 

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I'll give it a shot loading it on the laptop and publishing it, if it doesn't work I'll let you know and you can take a look at it tomorrow afternoon.  Thanks for all the help tonight...

Good luck pouring that concrete!

, I think you can either change some things in your PayPal account settings regarding your default currency..

or add a hidden variable to the PayPal form code ASPProtect uses like this guy did.
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/code_info.asp?TID=237&KW =paypal

The hidden form variable code would go next to all the other hidden variables in no particlar order.. just look through the paypal code in notepad till you find a bunch of those hidden form variables lines in a row. ,

Hi,

I am investigating the possibility of purchasing above script having spent some hours trying to integrate various free banner rotators into my Invision portal.

What attracts me to your script is that it has 6 ways to call banners. I am an inexperienced webmaster with only a smatterring of knowledge about ASP. Will ASP Banner be able to integrate with my portal?

Many thanks

David van der Want

,

I made the changes like you suggested, but now the page just times out before even loading. 

<%
ConnectionString = "DBQ=D:\clients\rklarman\DrWeisbergUsers.mdb;Driver={Microso ft Access Driver (*.mdb)}"
DatabaseType = "MSACCESS"
%>

,

Regarding (ASP Photo Gallery Pro)

If you are looking to import a very, very, large number of images, the upload feature might not be sufficient for you. I have done some work using a unix terminal to be able to upload as many images as I would like by simply placing the images in the directory and renaming the images. There are other ways to rename the images, but I am very familiar with Linux, so I chose to do it this way. If you are running Linux, MacOS, or another Linux-based OS, you can simply pull up a terminal and run the following command in the appropriate directory. If you run Windows, I'd suggest CygWin, which creates a Linuxenvironment (Linux shell). It can be found at www.cygwin.com In order to be recognized by the ASP software, the images must be in the format of pic_"Album Number"_"Picture Number".jpg . Therefore, the following code is run to accomplish the file name change (on one line without wordwrap):

ls -1 DSC* |
sed 's/DSCN//g'
sed 's/.JPG//g' |
awk '{print "mv DSCN"$1".JPG pic_9_"$1".jpg"}'
This command will change all files beginning in "DSCN" to "pic_9_*Picture Number*".

This does have a slight problem however. If there is a large number of pictures, 0's become a problem. For example, if there are 200 pictures, picture 1 will show up as pic_9_001.jpg. This can be fixed by the following command, which will eliminate unneccesary 0's (All on one line once more):

ls -1 --color='never' pic_9_0*
|sed 's/_0/_/g'
|sed 's/pic_9_//g'
|sed 's/.jpg//g'
|awk '{print "mv pic_9_0"$1".JPG pic_9_"$1".JPG"}'

This command eliminates 1 zero. It should be run as many times as needed to eliminate all zero's.

Please Note: These commands will only show the resultant set (The list of picture names). In order to execute them, they must be output to a shell script using the ">" character as follows:

ls -1 DSC* |
sed 's/DSCN//g'
sed 's/.JPG//g' |
awk '{print "mv DSCN"$1".JPG pic_9_"$1".jpg"}' > temp.sh

Then, the shell script must be run using the following command:

sh temp.sh

This might take a few moments, depending on the amount of picture names that are being changed.

IMPORTANT: BACK UP all files before changing file names. Also, view the resultant sets to make sure it's what you want before outputting to a shell script.

If you have any questions, please feel free to post or e-mail me @ JPortnoy@checkernet.com

cwilliams38210.5703009259,

sorry.. you just said above you were using XP SP2 so that is the article I referred you to as I just assumed you were talking about your local web server

here is my article on permissions regarding server 2003
http://www.powerasp.com/content/new/windows_2003_server_and_ permissions.asp

I can look at your installation monday if you like. In about an hour I leave for a wedding thingie and I wont be around again untill monday around noon

Try the uploading using VBSCRIPT method just for the heck of it. Perhaps there is an issue with the installation of the dundas component.

CJW


 

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as far as sql goes if you follow the instructions with give for setting up a new database you shouldnt have any issues and permissions should be already set. because we handle that in the sql script we give you.. "its a good thing to look at and it is pretty easy to understand what is going on""

however using another account could cause permissions issues.."yes, even sa"     basically the username your using needs datareader and datawriter permissions to all tables used by the photo gallery system and you probably have to go specifically set them usin ght e security tab for your database in enterprise manager. This is more of SQL server 101 than anything to do with the Photo Gallery Code so I am not going to get into it too deeply, but that is definetly the issue.  Permissions...

cwilliams38303.6065740741,

Your users with Internet Explorer may have received the "Page Expired" error.  For ASPProtect users, it happens when  the user is not logged on and tries to invoke the target page. check_user_inc.asp puts up the login form, and IE sees it as part of the target page.  Any later attempt to Back up and reload from cache gives the errror. 

My solution was, after successful login, instead of falling through the bottom of check_user_inc.asp and running the target page, I issue a re-direct to reload the target page. I also added META tags on the dynamic login form to say no-cache and expire now, so the re-direct really does reload the target page. This time, of course, check_user_inc.asp does not need to put up the login form, and the new target page in cache contains no form at all.  So, IE will not give a Page Expired error when Backing up to it later.

Netscape, and I gather other browsers, do not behave the same way, so I limited the solution to IE.  Also, the solution only works if the target page has no form of its own.

I'm uploading my customized version of check_user_inc.asp that contains this solution.  (In it, I also used the Javascript focus method to place the "cursor" in the Username field when the login form loads.)

2004-11-22_050940_check_user_inc.zip

cwilliams38313.494537037,


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