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Blog Entry: 3/25/2006 1:37:54 PM

I set the max image width to 1000; previously it was null. Now I'm getting server errors:

page not found, then, service unavailable (the page is there). But in a new album, the images imported fine and it seems to be working now, despite the IIS issues.

I think my host restricted the amount of memory and resources my site is allowed to use.

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OK, I just spent like an hour in your site.. I almost gave up

1st off... I don't know what FTP Program/Settings or what OS you are using but all the ASP Protect Files had been reformatted in a odd way which was causing some issues and the database also had problems. Your somehow introducing all sorts of UNIX line breaks to all the files and the database was actually missing some crucial parts of itself and was corrupted. So I had to update everything which means a new database. I have never seen anything like it but I fixed it all. Its something you are doing but I do not know what. Maybe your unzipping method again ?


So to get back into the admin area...

admin
test

Now, the reason  the albums were not showing is because you are using the ole connection string which causes problems like that. However because you host has like the worst setup ever with that network path crap for the site that was the only connection string that would work for some reason.

I highly suggest a new host with a proper setup for running ASP. www.alentus.com
Your hosting companies setup is horrid as far as I am concerned.
Access Databases are not meant to be connected to via a network path.
http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2168

Anyway, I rewrote some of the code because of the ole connection and got the albums showing up for you.. who knows what other problems that OLE connection may bring up in the future.. for now things I tested seem ok.

As for your broken image in the your header/footer...  You cant link to images and links using virtual pathing in those includes because the files are called from different directories and will work in some and not others

so when your in the root you see the image, when in a different folder you see a broken image

In other words.

link to

http://www.vickerylightning.com/gallery/vickery_template5_r2 _c1.jpg

not just

vickery_template5_r2_c1.jpg

The same goes for hyperlinks.. use the full url paths


Whatever you do...Back up the gallery folder with my changes before you go doing anything.

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I am a little confused here.  I am in the process of understand how this all works, mainly the email portions as I am running this through a home server (Windows XP).  I have tried test emails, but they are not going threw.  I ran the server_info.asp and it is telling me that I do have CDONTS installed, version 2.8.  Then I tried running, the test_mailer_component.asp.  This page is telling me it is not installed.  This process lead me to start looking at my components for my IIS.  Everything appears to be there. 

Any ideas, where I should go next.  It appears the CDONTS code is in every page that it needs to be in, and it appears that I have it installed, but there is a disconnect between the two..

 

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Hello,

My guess your having trouble setting up a system dsn because the database has a password set on it. Your hosting company most likely sets up DSNs without using the advanced tab which is where the authentication information goes. Or they have some sort of web interface for the customers to use that doesn’t allow setting up that information.System DSN’s are actually difficult to set up correctly when the database has a password on it. There is of course a password on the database for security reasons so if someone ever downloads it somehow they will not get your information.

System DSN’s are not the way to go regardless as you will see mentioned at our support site.

http://support.cjwsoft.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9&P N=1

 

You really should try setting up a DSN-less connection. It is the best way to go. They are easier to set up, perform better, and are less load on the server. Any host that wants it customers to use system dsn’s is not on the ball as far as server performance and server resource conservation goes. They are really asking for trouble down the road.

All you need to do to make dsn-less connection is the following.

Get permissions set for the folder the database is in (by your host)… then figure out the physical path on the server to the database by using server.mappath or you simply ask your host for the info.

An article I wrote on using server.mappath

http://www.powerasp.com/content/hintstips/physical-path.asp

Then your connection string will look something like this.. (of course you edit the path to match what server.mappath tells you. And you make sure the database name is correct)

ListingsConnectionString = "DBQ=C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\asplistings\_database\asplistings_ac cess2000.mdb;Driver={Microsoft Access Driver (*.mdb)};UID=Admin;Password=temp"

Another option would be to simply remove the password from the database using MSACCESS.. then try to connect to it using a System DSN without the password. If your host is storing the databases outside of your web in the root of the server then removing the password on the database is not that bad of a thing to do as there is no way anyone will be able to dload it from your site. Of course there is a still a performace loss when using a system dsn with an Access Database

cwilliams38145.8540509259,

More Info in Case Anyone is Interested:

This bug was mentioned by a couple people. The cause of it was never really understood until I recently re-wrote some of the banner code for an upcoming version.

The fix for this bug was very simple. It was just one of those weird situations where code should have worked but did not. I added some code to do it a bit differently and it worked as it should have..

It really still makes no sense to me why it didnt work the way it was, but at least there is a fix.

 

cwilliams38203.5883680556,

Hi,

You see, an include file is no different then a link to an image or graphic. The path to the include file must of course be valid. That file isn't in the same directory as that page so you get an error.

You simply need to make the call to the include file valid.

See my article on server side includes.
http://www.powerasp.com/content/code-snippets/includes.asp

You should also look at some of the provided example pages and see how the paths to the include files are done.

You can also use a virtual include if you figure out the page for that. See my article for the difference between a file include and a virtual include.

The code generator in the admin area shows examples of both but depending on your site structure the paths may need to be slightly edited.

Server Side Includes are a fundamental part of using ASP and they are used a lot. Once you understand how include files are used you will think it is the simplest thing.


More articles on server side includes

http://www.w3schools.com/asp/asp_incfiles.asp

http://www.4guysfromrolla.com/webtech/faq/Beginner/faq6.shtm l

http://www.minwar.com/24

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it's ok

one step at a time and at each step testing things.. then when you mess something up you can figure it out a lot easier

cwilliams38456.1106018519, Great!  Sounds good Chris.  ,

All can say right now is take a break and get away from it for a bit. All your going to do is stress yourself out more if you keep working on it.

There is probably a way to make it work but it may require days of fiddling around and reading articles and trying things and even then you may not get it working AND THEN ITS JUST A BAD IDEA ANYWAY. Like John says you are better off running it on a server that is not a domain controller.

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If you are using an ACCESS Database try to avoid using a system DSN. They are much slower because they go through ODBC which then uses the Jet Drivers to access the database. They also have to do a registry lookup.

ttp://www.4guysfromrolla.com/webtech/070399-1.shtml

http://www.powerasp.com/content/database/dsn_vs_dnsless.asp



It's funny because in the 4guys article they ask the question..

"Hmmmm... so who was right, Microsoft or Wrox?"

I'll tell you who was right and who said it 1st.  It was me and I said it on my old powerasp.com site before anyone else ever did.

I found it out on my own by experimenting when I was the Systems Analyst for an large ISP. We we had web servers that were not running well. I didn't read about this solution anywhere because no one was talking about it at the time. Microsoft said use System DSN's so everyone just took their word for it.

I took a lot of heat for saying that back in the day but over time everyone started saying it.

, Oh, to clarify the above.  We did not change any columns in your [Users] database or any other table.,

Dear Christofer

I already have send you the details you asked me for. Please let me know if you have received

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What other information do you have ?

Details are very important.

Info on situations where it works... like OS, browser version.. etc etc

Info on situations where it does not work... same stuff

size of the PDF files ?

server info ?

Maybe protect a page and offer a PDF file so myself and some of the forum users can try it and report back what happens.

Also, Many people zip up PDF files when letting people download them as browsers can act pretty odd at times with them. Perhaps that is an option.

, Lastly, I put there information here to help, but please don't ask me any questions about it.

I am not microsoft SQL server support. If this doesn't work for you simply start troubleshooting and doing google searches like I do. ,

I downloaded the skins, ftp'd them to the skins folder and can see them in the list of available skins. No matter which one I try to apply it keeps solid_color_black.

Al

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My ISP uses ASPSmartMail. The email confirmation works except when I try to register an AOL user the server returns an error 500.

 

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yes, admins have access to absolutely anything...

as for the other question what you should do is only show links to people logged in that they have access to.. then they wont get logged out when they go to a page they do not have access to

for example if someone doesn't have access to a level 4 page dont give them a link to go there... you can do that by checking the session variables and creating your hyperlink html code accordingly .. using simple if-else logic... you could even make a hyperlink non-clickable and add some text to it like (no access)

it's all about taking the time to intelligently designing the different areas of your web site. It takes a bit of time and work to really make a system flow the way you want it to.

other than that it becomes extremely complicated to not grant them access when they go to a page they dont have access to but also keep them logged in. It is just not designed to flow that way. If someone goes to a page they do have access to they get logged out. It sort of has to be that way because of the ways things flow.

more info on accessing user info after login so you can do that
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo198-1.htm

another good thing to check out is the provided examples for mutliple access levels. You can see that if you log into the default page for that that it only shows you links to pages you have access to. Done with simple if-else logic around the html links. It is using groups but you can do the same sort of concept using groups.

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The pages in the ASProtect Full version that have emailing code in them are as follows.

password_admin/email_user.asp

password_admin/send_mass_email.asp

users/add_new_account.asp

users/email_password.asp

, When I go to set up a new user, my user name and password are already in the window. And I am un-sure why. I start a new browser, and again that my same user name and password is in that window.,

This isn't going to help you much but here is the deal.

The 2checkout support in ASPProtect actually is not supposed to work with 2checkout subscriptions and therefore does not need to use an item number.

It is intended to be used for single payments only with 2checkout as explained in this thread.
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo212-1.htm

Single payments with 2checkout use their shopping cart which allows for dynamic payments without needing an item number.

I agree with you that 2checkout's interface is confusing. It's actually about the worst system I have ever seen. I could not make a 2Checkout subscription system because their system is just too limited and I couldn't make it work the way it really needed to.

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Hey, I run a business and I will not have things like that mentioned in these forums.

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Hi, I have not gotten anything from you about it.

click on the PM button below and send it that way through the forums.

Thanks

, Your suggestion worked - thanks - , ok, I am going to do that in the next few hours. I cant do it right now as I have a few other business's and something else needs my attention right now.

Chris, [QUOTE=cwilliams]

It should be released sometime late May 2004 or early June 2004 but no gurantees as I am pretty busy right now with some projects.

There will be upgrade instructions and it should be a fairly easy upgrade.

[/QUOTE]

 

Like I said no guarantee... I have a lot of things going on... it might not even be finished till the end of July... customers will always be able to get it for the difference in price

You have the version listed on the site when you purchassed it.
Version 3.0

cwilliams38167.6469328704,

I just moved servers and now my "code" ads are giving me errors...

"google_ad_width" is undefined.

I have tried adding the width and height... taking it out.. all the basic stuff.

Any ideas?

TIA  

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That's excellent!
 
I did learn that parent paths were disabled on my test 2003 server...
 
But on the hosted server, it looks like parent paths are supported as I change the file location of the language file in the forum common.asp as such, and obviously moved the file as well:
 
from:
<!--#include file="language_files/language_file_inc.asp" -->
to:
<!--#include file="../language_file_inc.asp" -->
 
Everything seems to work fine and I thank you very much for you quick response!!!
 
Ok, time to buy...thanks again!
 
- Jason
 
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DONE IT

DON'T WORRY!

DON'T ASK HOW, BUT NOW IT WORKS!!

THANK YOU IF IT WAS YOU, OR THANK YOU GOD IF IT WAS ME!!!

, thank you for such a quick response -- It sounds straight forward - so I should be all set.   Thanks again., I do not really know a lot about but it is basically code that lets you specify however many number of images and links... and then display a certain number of them at once.

You'd have to search google for it.. there are 1000 of sites that offer free javascript code and that is where you find scripts like that.

You could certainly set up all the images and links for each banner in aspbanner but if you used them with code like that you be limited to tracking clicks on banners. Tracking page impressions would not be possible because the javascript would be handling what images get displayed at any given time. Basically each link for each image would be going through aspbanners tracking url feeding it the banner id and therefore tracking the click and sending the user to the desirec URL.

Regardless, it is not something I would support. You would have to sort it out as it is nothing ASPBanner was designed to do and not something I want to deal with because client side javascript code is not something I am NOT very good with. ,

The album ID thing is completely normal and by design. Once an ID in the database is used it can not be used again. That is how autonumber fields in a database work.

As far as not being able to delete images... Are you by chance using ASP.NET to show dynamic thumbnails... Because if you are you must turn that feature off and wait 20 minutes or so (maybe more) before you will be able to delete any of the images. It is because the current version of the ASP.NET script used to make the thumbnails locks the images on the server temporarily anytime it creates a thumbnail.

It is a known issue... and there is no fix at the moment other than what I told you above.

cwilliams38324.744525463, Well, I had no more trouble after I read the instructions.

The PayPal integration is really neat stuff! WOW!  And the email users function got up and running in a snap... this is an awesome package!

The coolest thing with the user registration is that the account username and password are selected by the user. That is very very nice. Much less typing for me to do.
, ok thanks,

sure (XP PRO), see my article on that

http://www.powerasp.com/content/new/windows_xp_pro_and_permi ssions.asp



 

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Hi,

 

I only just purchased the product and I would be very keen to

a) is the upgrade available very soon as I don't want to spend the time developing one and than find the other released shortly & 

b) would I only need to pay the difference for the upgrade or have I already downloaded the upgrade already.

I cant see what version I current have.

I look forward to your response.

ripcurlsurf38138.816099537,

I dont know. Perhaps a fresh installation in a new folder would be a good idea as well if possible..

for troubleshooting sake..

, ok, glad it is working,

[QUOTE=cwilliams]I would like to delete the SQL tables and set them up from scratch using enterprise manager and sql query manager and see what happens

If that is ok with you let me know.

Something is wrong like I said...  almost seems like the database is caching old password info from the field.[/QUOTE]

Sure go ahead

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It's custimization work. and just not something I can support.
Basically it is basic ASP/Database work.

Something you kind of need to figure out on your own. It's not difficult work for a good asp coder but there is no easy way and it is time comsuming.

I wouldn't use the custom fields though. I would make your own.
It's simpler that way.

cwilliams38437.0929282407, actually, looks like its 8.95 a month now for a pretty slick plan
http://www.alentus.com/hosting/valueplan.asp,


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