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The only reason no one else asked this many questions is possibly because they didnt NEED the functions i am TRYING to do.

We offer tech support for installation of the base application purchased in it's native form.  In other words were not planning on spending weeks holding your hand and teaching you how to build your application or modify the one you bought. Not because anyone wants to make it hard on you but because there is a practically infinite number of things someone could be trying to do and the only way to give you the exact answer would pretty much involve either writing it for you or having a look at your code to see what the heck your doing. Sorry but my time isn’t cheap nor do I have a lot to spare. I already gave you my approach on what to do and what you should be looking at but obviously you’re not catching on. SO ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE LOOK AT THE SOURCE CODE AND DECIDE HOW YOU WANT TO HANDLE YOUR END OF THINGS BASED ON HOW THE APP DOES ITS THING. I really don’t know how I can be more clear that that. I don’t have a crystal ball that can tell me where you’re going with your own code, what the final requirements are... what field you want to add or remove for the database etc. There is a demo up that everyone can look at and play with so they can get a feel for how the things behave and look. It’s not my fault your naivety led you to believe you could do anything with it in ten seconds. I mean if I just add some wings to my car maybe it will fly, and if you just add a shopping cart and a few products maybe you can start your own Amazon.com with that software right? Sounds good to me…

It would take me longer to re-write YOUR code than it would to have LEARNED ASP.NET and made MY OWN.

Well thats one thing we both agree on, I bet it would take you a long time to rewrite the code when you dont know how to write it in the first place. By you own admission you dont know enough about what your doing to be messing with a .NET app at this point. Maybe you should take your own advice and LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT IT. What’s even worse is that application isnt even complicated, its 101 stuff honestly. One class, thats it! Your not looking at thousands and thousands of them that you will have to read and comprehend. If you can actually “read” the code we kept it lean and mean and to the point. Nothing strange or random, no references to a zillion things all sprinkled here and there. Its reads like a book if you know the language. That’s why developers buy these apps all the time. Not because they couldn’t write one themselves, but because they know their time is valuable as well and for $150 which is less than most get paid an hour they couldn’t be bothered. Furthermore we both spend a lot of time making sure these apps are "dumbed down" so that the average programmer without a lot of object oriented background can pick up the coding style tweak it if they need to. Some people do modify things to suite their needs and others are happy with our apps "as is".

Just to recap we already wasted two days yappin about your jacked up servers and after you went through THREE of them and finally got one working you said the code was working. Red lights started flashing in my office by the time you got to the second screwed up machine, but hey weird things happen so at that point I wasn’t 100% concerned. Technically we could have and possible should have cut you off there as the policy in place is pretty clear about us not being your tech support crew when it comes to getting your machine working properly (especially one we cant even look at). Go check those posts again both Chris and I were answering your questions and being as helpful as anyone could possibly expect.

Several more days have been spent answering questions about how to modify your application and again that’s not our responsibility and we don’t support modified versions of the software for all the reasons that should be obvious. No software company does and if I have to explain why that is well this conversation is beyond hope.

Bottom line is the responsibility to support that application ends the moment you get it running the way it was shipped. Were pretty damn decent about going above and beyond and a lot of the time we go into things we shouldn’t have to. If you have well thought out and specific questions by all means ask, this isn’t some sort of thanks for your money now get lost operation. CJWSoft has been around since the beginning of Microsoft’s entrance into the web application market. We have thousands and thousands of happy customers because we are developers and enjoy working with other developers along the way.

 

You’re not the first N0oB to show up, but you’re the first one I can think of that ever tried to tell us we didn’t write the apps we sell and essentially wanted to argue that we don’t know what were talking about. Meanwhile you should have been done with your thing days and days and days ago, not in here yapping off and showing your ignorance to the other developers that regularly browse these forums. You trying to tell me how CafePress works is a joke, I happened to have been part of the team that worked on the first few revisions of that site and again you really didn’t even understand what I was getting at in that last post. LINK TO LOGIN PAGE not link to every protected page on the site.

If you think I am pissed off at you, your wrong. I'm just irritated with the whining about this and that and rather than admit your over your head you come back with half baked remarks that only make sense to you. If you think you can google a few terms and come back here talking smack like you’re actually someone that knows what you’re talking about your just making a fool of yourself. You sound like a guy from China trying to tell me how to speak English... My advice is get a few books and start learning or try actually reading up and listening to the other bazillion knowledgeable developers out there that do a great job posting articles about the subject. You might just learn something and actually get your project finished before 2010 and when you do please come back and re-read your posts with "enlightened eyes" so you can see what a goofball you are for saying half of the things you have said. I am not in the mood to keep helping you get your project done step by step. I have huge projects of my own going on and if I thought you could actually provide a descent project specification I might offer to make the changes for you at a serious discount so you could go away and everyone would be happy. Problem is I dont get the feeling you could explain your way out of a paper bag let alone provide a group of programmer the techinal specs for your project.

Your best bet is to post a link to the start of this thread at www.AngryCoder.com I'm sure a  few of  people over there would be more than willing to give you a ton of usefull advice

Google 4GuysFromRolla… a great resource site with example, just dont come back here  telling me those guys/ladies posted things that dont work either.

Chris has written hundreds of articles on PowerASP, a great place to start looking as well… www.powerasp.com I've been spitting out code for longer than I can remeber and I still look thing up on this site because its LOADED with great info. That happens to be one of the very first ASP sites that went up on the net so lets just say he knows a bit or two about the subject.

I'm sure your frusturated but your pushing your luck seriously. 38 posts about this subject in a week and your over there hacking away on your virus infested WaReZ machine which isnt exactally the ideal development rig. I mean we provide the code and your supposed to provide at the least a very basic knowlege of what your doing and a production grade platform to test it out on. To me thats like buying a car and then asking how to drive it... then bugging the dealer to teach you and when you smash the thing complaining because no one told you that your not supposed to drive into a wall. I have the same policy as the dealer, show me something wrong with the car from the factory and we will fix it for you NO QUESTIONS at all with our appoligies, but really once you take it off the lot what you do with it is your deal and its not our responsability in the least.


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SQL Server Datareader Datawriter Permissions..

here is a screenshot that shows how to set datareader and datawriter permissions on a database using "SQL Enterprise Manager"

In this example we are making sure the aspbanneruser has those permissions on the aspbanner database in the SQL Server

cwilliams38390.5986921296,



I guess i am not being clear as to what i am trying to do. As far as the event thing... lets hold off on that for now. It seems Chris has answered my question and i am on my own for that one...

As far as the log in goes: I went to that site you mentioned;www.CafePress.com to see if they had what i was talking about. and they do. Notice on the bottom of the page it says "sign in to your account"

I want that option on my home page where users can sign in to go to their account. It will either take them to a page where they can update their info, or it will take them to a protected page. Pretty much instead of posting a link on the site to say... click here to go to members.aspx and have it return an "access denied" the user can enter their info from the main page and be automatically re-directed to that members.aspx page.

I know how the viewstate works and i also know what that returnURL thing does..pretty self-explanitory.

Hopefully that makes things easier. I just want a user to log in from the homepage and be redirected to either a protected page or their account page...

(as does that cafepress website)

, Along with being able to set an expiry date or number of impressions, is it possible to add another option for a banner to be "non-expiring"?

With our current ad software (which we are transferring all data from to ASPBanner), we run banners for both paid advertisers, and for our own services. The banners relating to our own services, we would like to set to "non-expiring" so they appear all the time. ,

Hi,

I did some layout customizing on the register page on my site. ( http://www.lonestaricon.com/aspprotect/paypal_sub_signup/reg ister.asp)

Now when I tried to register, it seems like it goes to the next page, but it is blank.
( http://www.lonestaricon.com/aspprotect/paypal_sub_signup/add _new_account.asp)

If I log in under administration, it shows that I have registered. I can't seem to figure out what part of the code is wrong, so that the new account page will not load.

I'd would greatly appreciate any help with this.

Thanks,

Allison

, The mass picyure import does not work like that. It involves no uploading component.

Only an admin can do a mass import on an album and they have to ftp the images into the site in that upload folder before they go do the mass import thing. ,

here is a thread that may help you if this is what you were getting at


http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo389-1.htm

, recently i've been getting a lot of unspecified errors.  i've been running aspbanner for about a year and a half now.  i don't know what would have caused all these problems.  also, for some reason it won't maintain my log-in, ever time i got from page to page or try to submit a form it asks me log-in again.

Jason S.
cwilliams38389.8791550926,

Is there any way to extend the limit multiple login feature to a certain number instead all or none?  In other words, i need to have a user be able to use the same login for x number of people.  My customers are institutions and want to be able to have a single login for however many users they purchase for.

,

My ISP uses ASPSmartMail. The email confirmation works except when I try to register an AOL user the server returns an error 500.

 

,

This first one may be an obvious one, but is it only .asp files that I can protect as in no HTML files.

Can the program be set to protect my whole https directory contents (though the answer to the last question may have bearing here - there are html files as well as .asp in there) as in http://secure.mydomain.com

Thanks in advance

,

MSACCESS 2000

server: windows

option pack: yes (after the install I have this problems with groups and edit users )

host permissions: yes

MESSAGGE:
Active Server Pages error 'ASP0113' Script time out/password_admin/groups.asp The maximum amount of the time for a script to execute was exceeded. ...

 

vaghelis38300.5484143519, Bingo! that did it.  Somehow the data must have gotten corrupted. 

Hopefully that will do for me. Seems like everything is humming along and looks great!

Thanks again,

Laura
, If by permissions ou are reffering to the IUSR with write/execute
permissions, they are already set. I get this error when I hit the 'Create New
Export File From Current User Database' link:

Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a004c'

Path not found

/ASPProtect/password_admin/export.asp, line 76

Any other suggestions?, Thanks for the information. We added the name manually instead of using the App_Name variable., "do you know a way around the BinaryRead problem with ASPProtect?"

Let me rephrase:

Do you know a way in which ASPProtect can be modified to get around the BinaryRead problem?

Thanks,
Michelle
, still.. its got to be somthing along those lines.. I have seen times when even dbo didnt have full rights to a particular database so permissions should always be manually checked..

The import data routine is most likely the source of the trouble

For troubleshooting sake I would create a fresh installation from scratch using the sql script we provide and a new SQL user. Then see if that works. If it does then try to import your data into that.

There are no other things I can think of doing. Sometimes you just have to start with a clean slate. ,

I have connected to countless DB's using my own applications written in dreamweaver and have tested them on my own server and also my web facing one.  BUT this seems to be different.  no matter what I try I still get this error.

[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver]General error Unable to open registry key 'Temporary (volatile) Jet DSN for process 0x440 Thread 0x6b0 DBC 0x1f995bc Jet'.

On both a windows 2000 server and also a windows 2003 server. Also using both DSN and DSN less connection and oledb.

Any help would be greatly apprectiated.

Thanks

, You kid around again regarding illegal downloads and not only will you be banned from the forums, your support will be cut off completely.

,

Yes, I was referring to ASP Protect.

I had about a dozen people access the same account, but it is highly unlikely that they would all try at the same time (unless there were several hundred people who had access). Having an enhanced login abuse would be nice.

 

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User Information

After a user logs in there are variables that you can always access.
They can be used to check various things or to display information
dynamically based on who has logged into the system.

   Session("PasswordAccess")
   Session("Access_Level")
   Session("Admin")
   Session("Active")
   Session("Expiration_Date")
   Session("User_ID")
   Session("Groups")
   Session("Redirection_URL")
   Session("Password")
   Session("Username")
   Session("First_Name")
  
Session("Last_Name")
  
Session("Company_Name")
   Session("Email")
  
Session("Address")
  
Session("City")
  
Session("State_Province")
  
Session("Zipcode_Postal_Code")
  
Session("Phone")
   Session("Custom1")
  
Session("Custom2")
  
Session("Custom3")
  
Session("Custom4")
  
Session("Custom5")
  
Session("Custom6")

You can display them on a page at any time using Response.Write like so

<% Response.Write(Session("FIRST_NAME")) %>

or like this

<% = Session("LAST_NAME") %>

cwilliams38419.533900463,

in Control_pic.asp is there way to wrap the description field so that it doesn't go outside the table.

 

Thanks

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Yeah, its a win2k server.

Im up and running now (my guess is ASP wasnt installed, but he did not say), but am not having luck with any of the email.  I contacted my host to see what is available and have yet to hear back.  Do you generally recommend people to run CDOSYS?

Ive been reading through the docs, and the users and protection seems to be pretty straightforward.   Nice!

The only other real question I have (and cant find in the docs) is how to remove the self registration option all togehter.  My client wants to add its users manually, and not give the option for them to sign up themselves.  Do I just find any remove any code that references it?

, Did you ever figure out the process for VS2005?, Your customer should set up a special page that you send banner clicks to. That page is the page that should record the ip and whatever other info needed.

I suppose you could make a page on your end that records that info and finally redirects them to the intended url as well.

All using simple asp. It's really not that dificult to do, but it is a loit easier if you do it this way and keep it seperate from the banner system.


Here is some interesting information not totally related to answering your question.

The banner system does not track IPs on individual clicks because if it did.. 100 clicks on a paricular banner in one day would result in 100 rows in the stats database instead of just 1 row. That may not seem like a lot, but imagine 30 banners all doing the same thing mulipled by 30 days. Your talking 90000 rows in the database instead of 900. It all comes down to what ASPBanner was designed for which is performance and low resource use.

Some banner systems out there even keep track of individual IP's per banner display. Try to imagine how much that effects performance and how much extra space is used in the database for stats. It's crazy and also the reason that the more little features a banner system offers the slower and slower it begins to run.

I am sure I lose sales all the time because I offer less features, but the truth is I know those features will eventually defeat the purpose of why I created this banner system in the 1st place and that i just not something I want to do.

The banner systems with every little feature are just not well suited to very busy sites no matter how well they are designed.cwilliams38324.8386689815,

There is no way I'm going to spend hundreds of dollars for a thumbnail creation program. Mine is a family web site and all out of my pocket.

Is there any free products that work with Gallery that will create the thumbnails? If not can I create them on my own and link them to the pics? There are tons of Perl based freebies out there.

 

Steve

, you would have to edit the application in visual studio.net.. change some things around  and recompile the application... in the process figuring out how you want to handle all of that (probably combining the username and email fields just on the registration form then saving both values to the database)

very doable.. just not anything documented or supported as it is custimization

I do have a very  nice article on the forums on how to set up a project in visual studio.net with the application..  it is in the forums,

I cleaned up the code as you suggested, and I still can't get the images to display without the whitespace around it.

How do I download the ASP version?  I'll give it a try.

Thanks for your help,
JDooley

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Actually, I think I just found my answer...
 
I will take out the StrToFix = Replace(StrToFix," ","&nbsp;") bit of code and see what happens...
 
- Jason
 
Jawa38406.4721412037,

The redirection at 1st login feature is supposed to work like I explain in this thread.

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo385-1.htm

Though what you just said is a bit confusing it sounds like you have some sort of browser problem and it is doing the redirect every single time. ?

I would suggest reseting all your browser settings to normal and making sure cookies are enabled because forms based authentication uses session variables and cookies must be enabled for session variables to work correctly. If not something like this could happen as the redirection at 1st login would happen over and over every time.

So try it on other computers and try with firefox as well as IE. Many people go nuts with their browser settings and way too much stuff blocked which can cuse all sorts of issues. Also some script blocking and firewall software can cause problems so disable all of that when testing.

You may also have created some sort of endless loop. (I really need to know way more information on what you did to know that for sure)

You may also want to consider doing your redirects manually meaning you protect a a page and right after the protection you use regular ASP redirect statements to redirect the user whevever you like based on their session info which is available to easily check immediatly after someone gets through the authentication.

I still stand behind my statements that redirection is not good site design. You really really need to understand and plan your ASP pages as well as have a very good understanding of the session and how all of that works if you use redirection with a password authentication scenario. You should never be redirecting someone to an ".htm" pages except during testing because you wont be able to stop users who are not supposed to go there from going there directly.

,

UPDATE..

Installed a new rack mount 1u server this week.

3.2 ghz hyperthreading 1 mb l2 cache prescott cpu
2 gb pf pc3200 kingston memory
SATA Raid.. (2) 120 gb drives running hardware raid 1

It is a supermicro 1u server case and server motherboard.
The hard drives are SATA 150 120 gb 7200 rpm Diamondmax Maxtors

All high end server type stuff... It's a very powerful server and has been running great all week. 500+ hours uptime so far.

Running Windows 2003 Server Enterprise
SQL 2000 Enterprise SP3
SmarterMail
SmarterStats
Windows DNS
ZipEnable (which I am reviewing for them)
ServerMask (which I am reviewing for them)
A ton of ASP Components which I have purchased over the years.

So that means I can now focus my attention on creating software again instead of being a system admin. (Due to these server issues over the past few months I am now back to godly status as far as windows system administration goes.. not to mention I am now back up to speed on the latest processors and hardware)

So, getting back to ASP Photo Gallery...

I spent about 20 more hours this week on the new version of ASP Photo Gallery Pro.. I have another 40 or more to put into it as I have a lot I want to do.

I think it will be ready within the next three weeks. I know a lot of you have been waiting for something.

cwilliams38331.5907060185,

ASPProtect v7.x runs on Microsoft IIS servers only.
That means Windows XP Pro, Windows 2000 server and Windows 2003 server. The web server must have ASP support enabled and support Data Connections. 99% of them do as it's a pretty normal thing, but you should ask and make sure your hosting plan supports it.

ASPProtect can use a Microsoft Access Database or Microsoft SQL Server as it's data source.  We provide the access databases and everything you need to create the SQL database, however customer's using Microsoft SQL Server are required to have SQL Enterprise Manager and SQL Query Analyzer in order to setup and maintain the SQL database. Other scenarios are possible but we do not support them.

ASPProtect v7.supports 13 different emailing methods and components so chances are you will have no problem finding one that will work for you.

CDONTS
CDOSYS
ASPEMAIL
ASPMAIL
ASPSMARTMAIL
DUNDASMAILER
JMAIL
SASMTPMAIL
Bamboo Mail
Simple Mail
ASPQMail
QuickSoft EasyMail Objects
OCXMail


We extensivley support all implemenations of CDOSYS which is installed on all the servers by default. We also support outgoing SMTP authentication requirements. If you can not send emails from the application using one of our 13 methods and you have an ASP solution that can send an email on your server we will work with you to make sure the application can send emails.


FINALLY

ASPProtect v7.x does not run under Chillisoft ASP. That means it does not run under Unix, Linux, Apache, etc etc. ASPProtect v7.x can not use a MySQL database. MySQL and Microsoft SQL are not the same thing.

If you are wondering if your web server runs Windows or Linux you can try using the header check here.
http://www.port80software.com/support/p80tools

Be warned however it will not always be accurate because some people cloak that information or show something different than what they are running to trick potential hackers. With commerical hosting though the the header information is usually accurate.
,

I uploaded the files designed for an aspprotect folder at the root of my site (mysite.com/aspprotect) and went to mysite.com/password_admin/get_me_in.asp and receive this error:

Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80004005'

[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver]General error Unable to open registry key 'Temporary (volatile) Jet DSN for process 0xf54 Thread 0x908 DBC 0x90c41dc Jet'.

/aspprotect/scripts/populate_config_variables_inc.asp, line 11

I am assuming my host has still not set rights properly and that is why I receive this error. Am I correct?

 I will definitely recommend hosting company you suggested for our businees site.

,

I was actually able to do similar thing by allowing our dedicated search engine to access the site unchallanged.

<%
If Trim(Left(Request.ServerVariables("HTTP_USER_AGENT"),11)) = "MYPASSWORD" Then  
 SearchFlag = True
End If
 
If SearchFlag <> True Then
If Session("Access_Level") > CHECKFOR or Session("Access_Level") = "" Then 
%>
<!--#include virtual="/Auth/check_user_Code.asp" -->
<head>
<title>My Title</title>

</head>

<body>

My Protected stuff here

</body>

</html>

For this to work, the search engine must pass the PW to the web site. I just was not sure how to do the same thing with IPs. I will play with the code and see what happens. If it works, I will post it here to help others, if this is OK with forum rules.

Thanks,

Mo

,

How do I recover or reset admin password used for the aspprotected pages. I have installed it months and months ago, but now can not recall the password. Any help appreciated, as I do not feel like installing it again.

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False alarm. Dumb user alert (both the classifieds customer and me).

When I test fixes, I need to be looking at the right Ad_ID to get correct results

,

Access Database Password

By default all of the Access Databases we give out have a default password of "temp"

The Default username that and Access database uses is "Admin" but you should not be concerned with that except in your connection strings.

The default password for the Access Database can only be changed using Microsoft Access to do so. If you have security concerns it would make sense to change the password. The help system built into Microsoft Access best explains how to do that.

cwilliams38403.6820833333,
I am sure its permissions as well, but I don't have that much access to the hosted server...lol.
 
I will use access for now, since it works fine, and try to talk with the hosting people later.
 
Thanks!
, I would like to delete the SQL tables and set them up from scratch using enterprise manager and sql query manager and see what happens

If that is ok with you let me know.

Something is wrong like I said...  almost seems like the database is caching old password info from the field.,

Sorry you feel that way, not my intention. I'm not threatening anything. I was very happy you responded when did so there no reason for any bad feelings. I like your product as I said before and have no problems with it. Sorry again, that was not my intention. Merry Christmas…

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