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Blog Entry: 3/25/2006 1:49:44 PM

Okay, I'm going nuts trying to find that settings screen.

I've got a dedicated server that I connect to using "Remote Desktop Connection" so it looks like a regular Windows desktop. It's running Windows Server 2003.

There's a program called "IIS Manager" but I've looked at all the options for all the different sections and I don't find anything that looks even remotely like that screen.  And, of course, Windows Help is no help at all.

What program do I run to get to that configuration screen?

  Thanks,

  Robert Gidley
,

ASPProtect v7.x has a new feature called groups.

Groups are meant as a replacement for using the access levels as they are much more powerful. Support for pages protected using access levels is left in tact for backward compatiability for a customer that was using them.

A customer recently told me groups could not be used like access levels and that 8 access levels was not enough. This is how I explained that groups can do everything access levels can do.



Groups can honestly do everything access levels can do if you really think about it.
Using groups and protecting pages accordingly you could actually create a system that basically worked identically to the way the access levels works.

For example..

You make 8 groups and assign users to them accordingly


Protection code on page allows access to groups 1-8
The aspprotect system generates this code for you…

<% GROUPACCESS = "1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8" %>
<!--#INCLUDE FILE="check_user_inc.asp"-->

In this case a user assigned to any one of those groups would have access..

 

Protection code on page allows access to groups 2-8
The aspprotect system generates this code for you…

<% GROUPACCESS = "2,3,4,5,6,7,8" %>
<!--#INCLUDE FILE="check_user_inc.asp"-->

In this case a user assigned to any group between  2-8 would have access..

 

Protection code on page allows access to groups 3-8
The aspprotect system generates this code for you…

<% GROUPACCESS = "3,4,5,6,7,8" %>
<!--#INCLUDE FILE="check_user_inc.asp"-->

In this case a user assigned to any group between  3-8 would have access..

and so on... I think you should get the picture by now

,



I have been able to successfully edit some text colors, but there seems to be one page that wont change the text color. Inside the users/ folder, the login.asp page, i cant seem to change the text color from ffffff to 000000 so it can be read on my background color. Every page in the script is correct but this one.

Thanks.

,

I am not sure totally understand your question.
I need you to explain it differently.

Any ".asp" page that is protected is going to automatically prompt them for a login box or log them in automatically depending on if they set that option.. In the end returning them to that same page.

So, it really all takes care of itself for the most part.. It doesn't even matter if the bookmark a protected page deep in your site. The system is smart enough to keep them at that page as well as handle their access.

Now of course if they are at an unprotected page of your site and navigate to a protected page they get a loin prompt or are allowed in if they already logged in...

Also.. when you say unprotected page ? do you mean ".htm" or ".asp"

cwilliams38298.6571759259,

I did everything mentioned here but it do not work ;(

,

Chris,

Yesterday when I would access the get_me_in page with the password key, I was then taken to the default login page.  It did not give me the option to create a user. 

Today, when I entered the password key into the get_me_in page, I was taken right to the create user page.  So, yes the problem has been resolved.  I have no idea why though.

 

,

The Read-only attribute i was referring to is at the windows explorer level when looking at the folder properties under the general tab. 

ASPNET and IUSR have full access to the _database folder as you suggested - Yet still I get the permission error noted above.

, Actually quite well.  I have this problem worked out and it actually isn't to bad.  But  now I am getting some strange error messages.  I will start another post.

Cheers
Roy
,

one last thing... if you did an upgrade from a previous version and didnt do the whole database field thing right during the upgrade process as stated here you could have trouble.
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo174-1.htm

Meaning you should check your new database with the field structure of an unmodified new database and make sure all field names match up perfectly.. especially paying attention to the username and password fields

One last thing..
If you did an import via text file and didn't import all the fields ASPProtect needs you could possibly have problems as well.. though I don't think this relates to the timeout so it probably is not the case

,

I dont know. Perhaps a fresh installation in a new folder would be a good idea as well if possible..

for troubleshooting sake..

,

I have written asp.net application pages- obviously i knew what viewstate was, or else when they made a mistake on that page it would not have saved their filled in info. Same thing for after they submitted, when they hit the back button their info would be gone.

For someone who wrote this software it seems you are not able to do simple things. Im begining to think you didn't write it. The only reason no one else asked this many questions is possibly because they didnt NEED the functions i am TRYING to do.

I know how the log boxes work. Esp. reg ASP... they all allow you to enter your username and password and then when you hit submit it gets verified and transfers you to your destination. ASP.NET has that capability also.. i didn't purchase a program to go and have to re-write it in visual studio. It would take me longer to re-write YOUR code than it would to have LEARNED ASP.NET and made MY OWN.

The program seems to have some great complex features, however, your not able to incorporate this easy login from a diff. page function... fishy

, aspprotect does not use a global.asa file

I would start by looking there and seeing what is going on ... with line 33

I dont see how it could be related to aspprotect in any way

Global.asa files fire on their own and what they do depends on what code is put in them,

Where is the system getting the random user name and password, and why does it keep selecting the same user name and password every time?

 

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no, you cannot unless you plan to write a lot of custom code.

That is why the option pack has groups which eliminate the need to use access levels because groups can do everything access levels can and more.

There is an article here regarding that.
http://support.cjwsoft.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32& PN=1

 

cwilliams38303.5555439815, Once you have the LANGUAGE = VBSCRIPT and Checkfor = 1 on your page, you'll have it secured. I've got over 1600 pages secured in such a manner, thanks to ASPProtect! ,

More Info on Simple File Sharing

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/filesharing.h tm

http://www.theeldergeek.com/quick_guide_to_simple_file_shari ng.htm

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;3040 40


 

, I'm in the process of incorporating the ASP Gallery functionality within my current site design.

To begin this process I'm taking each page and I'm wrapping the ASP Gallery code with my site design [essentially I'm allocating this application the center of the page].  When I pull in the default.asp into the site the contents of this page make the entire page too wide.  I can't see where ASP Gallery assigns itself a width.

I'm working on this as a side project so I'm not terribly far along since I need to change all of the font assignments within the system to style assignments and it's a slow go.

Any insight would be a great help, there's a lot of re-write in what I'm doing and i don't want to affect functionality.

if you want to see the page and what happens -- http://www.iphotosite.com/galleryapp/default.asp

Don't go to www.iphotosite.com because I havent moved it to its own location yet.

,

When I designed the system I never really intended people to type in long descriptions for pictures

and if they did I assumed they would use the enter key once in while..

but I guess people dont do that


This thread is along the same lines and shows what someone else did about this..

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo99-1.htm

though they are talking about a different page its the same issue

,

Hi

I would like to ensure the the user uses a UK style postcode not a clue how to ensure this as I am new to asp. Any ideas?

 

regards

John

,

Please be aware folks..

This file is not provided by CJWSoft. Though this may work very well use of it is not supported in any way. We have not tested it.

This user is not using the option pack so this file will not be compatible with anyone using that because it does not have support for groups and some of the other new features.

Regardless..we appretiate users sharing ideas and solutions that they have come up with.

cwilliams38313.499837963,

look in the "check_user_inc.asp" file

Thank you that did it !!

,

also.. the log out page shouldnt really need this
but you can try adding this to it where all the other ones are set to nothing..

<% Session("Groups") = "" %>

cwilliams38341.7215046296,

in the version you have changing it is not something we covered

I believe you will find it the "config_inc.asp" file in the root though... be careful with naming it though because if you use any spaces or weird characters it might cause issues with various functions in the application like emailing.. I recommend just using letter, numbers, and maybe dashes

 

,

ok, I moved this thread..

The code in the ASP application handles all encryption and un-encrpytion of passwords in the database. I uses the vbscript RC4 function and the password encryption key specific to your installation to do this.

The whole idea is that if someone gets your database and opens it up that they will not get the passwords (utilitiies to crack access databases are common and work well so they can easily get by the main password)

That being said when you open the database manually your not supposed to see clear text passwords. Your also not supposed to have an easy way to make them clear text. It's a security thing. 

Though I am not officially supporting it I will tell you what I think would be the easisest way to make an export file with clear text passwords in it.

Use the export fire creator in the admin area of aspprotect.
Mosdify "export.asp"

change

Password = CmdDataExport("Password")

to

Password = RC4(CmdDataExport("Password"), PasswordEncryptionKey)

Then make an export file and see if that worked.
you can then import the export file into and access database or do whatever you like with it.

,

You cant do it from initial lohin, but you can do it from the time of registration signup.
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo170-1.htm

As for the emailing thing it is most likely an email sending issue more than a code problem. For example spam filters incorrectly grabiing those emails or something of that nature..

Best thing to do is try different things for emailing options until you get something that works. I suggest using CDOSYS with a real email server and using a valid email account for yourself at that email domain. SMTP authentication if necessary. This will ensure the emails sent have valid MX records and dont get treated as spam.

 

,

On second thought guys, it would must easier to change the code using modulus as follows:

<% If PicIndex mod 6 = 0 THEN %> 
      </tr>    
      <tr>
<% End If %>

This will end each row and create a new row after each 6th picture. It'll be must easier code to work with and change.  This code must be placed in the PicIndex For Loop.

If you have any questions, JPortnoy@Checkernet.com

, Hi Chris,

I've got a page with a form that includes an input field with 'type="file"' for uploading an image.  The page posts back to itself to save the info to the database and run the code necessary to upload and resize the image.

I need to limit this page to a group.   So like usual, at the top of the page I put:
<% GROUPACCESS = "1" %>
<!--#INCLUDE FILE="../check_user_inc.asp"-->

This gives me the error: "Cannot call BinaryRead after using Request.Form collection"

I have used ASPUpload and SA-FileUP before and know that this is caused by the components having their own .form collection.  This script is using "Pure ASP File Upload" from DMXZone for the upload which I'm not familiar with. 

So...my question is, do you know a way around the BinaryRead problem wtih ASPProtect? 

Thanks,
Michelle

P.S. PLEASE don't send me to DMXZone for help....they've got notoriously bad support!

, Thanks for the information. We added the name manually instead of using the App_Name variable.,
I agree -- don't use the code as is.  I provided it only as an idea for a work-around if your ASPProtect users with Internet Explorer complain about the Page Expired message.
 
I did not test it to be sure the parms coming into the target page (which would be part of the URL when bookmarking) are properly preserved.  It would be easy to make sure they are preserved, but I am not sure the code in the example does that.  I also customized the code with my own page header and footer. 
 
I have the Option Pack but the site does not need it yet so I haven't applied it.  I don't expect many problems re-applying my few lines of modifications.
 
The IE behavior is not a big deal if you provide an explicit login page, since users would have less interest in paging back to that.   In my case, I simply gave a link to a protected part of the site, and when they take that link, they instead get the login form if they aren't logged on.  Once they log on, they get their desired content page, to which they sometimes want to page back later on. 
 
From searching the Microsoft Knowledge Base and other sources, I could not find a way (using HTML) to turn off IE's behavior of refusing to quietly reload a page containing form data. Netscape does not do this.  So my IE workaround is to ensure my target page does not contain the login form.  It does not solve the cause of the problem, but in this case it gets rid of the Page Expired error message for my IE users.
 
I also purchased ASPProtect for another site, and I'm using that "out of the box" unmodified.  I'm very pleased with ASPProtect's functionality and the fact that it works completely without the need to customize.  However, I've found it is very easy to customize if I want to.
 
  Jim
  Puli Club of America
, i was only kidding!! ,

Alternate Method to call banners from non ".asp" pages.

<iframe src ="http://localhost/aspbanner/aspbanner/aspbanner_inc.asp?Ban nerZone=4" width="468" height="60" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no"></iframe>

Be sure to delete the space in the BannerZone variable above. I am not sure why it is doing that in this post.


You can try calling the banners in an simple iframe like so.
This method should work much better than the javascript method because users with javascript turned off will still see the banners. You also will not have any of the limitations the javascript method has. Iframe is now supported by most recent browsers so it is now a good solution. Here is a chart that shows which browser versions support iframe.

Be sure however to edit the height and width values accordingly as that is very important.

cwilliams38105.8437384259,

Is there a way to set various members to upload a limit of photos. So, one member can only upload 5 photos in 1 album and another can upload 30 photos in 2 albums. Even if you just set a permission for the number of uploads for each member.

Thank you

, Is the user ID case sensetive? In my case I use the user email as the login ID., no, but in the standard version it probably will not run so great with more than 75 or so.

The unlimited version can handle pretty much whatever.,

Regarding installation in a subfolder

Though this should be common sense and ASP.NET 101 "so to speak" One thing not mentioned in the docs..


If you do not install ASPProtect.NET in the true root of a web there a key in the web config you must adjust.

it looks like this

<forms name=".aspprotect~net" loginUrl="/aspprotectlogin.aspx" protection="All" timeout="60" path="/" />

The way it comes it is valid for a root installation..

lets say you installed the application in folder called.
"aspprotectnet"

the key would change to this


<forms name=".aspprotect~net" loginUrl="/aspprotectnet/aspprotectlogin.aspx" protection="All" timeout="60" path="/" />

cwilliams38454.3830439815, Ok, have contacted the web hosts. Thank you for your help so far

Regards

Andy
,

Ya, you must have tried to upgrade from a really really old version like you said which wouldnt really work out because those instructions are specifically for upgrading a version 6 database to version 7.

That line error you had was looking for the User_ID field and I bet the version you had was so old that you didnt have a field named that as a few years ago the field "ID" got renamed to "User_ID"

As for all the cool stuff... yup there is a lot of cool stuff in this version... glad ya like it so far

cwilliams38418.8164930556,

I've got an ecommerce module that's running on it that uses access for the db.  Connecting into that thing is slow as well, but I figured that's because of the complications and volume it handles.

So as far as importing on a faster machine and copying it over to the server...what suggestions do you have?

,

This is what "John Evans" of CJWSoft has to say on the matter...

"I think that’s pretty much impossible. If the server sees a .JPG or .JPEG extension why in the world would it go and try to read it or do anything with it.

I believe there may have been some issues with Outlook and Outlook express that made it look like a vbs script sent as an attachment was actually a JPG because someone found an exploit in those programs and it would appear as if double extension files were one thing when in fact they were not.

Having a real time virus scanner on the server (which any good host will) should also catch anything infected being built on the server drives as the file uploads. Always worked for me and I had a lot of people uploading ZIP files on winxptheme.com at one point. Many had viruses in them although I suspect it was totally innocent on the end users part. Some people didn’t even know they had a virus on their rig. 

Fact is anything is possible but I think chances of getting a virus or being hacked in some way from this sort of upload are really slim."

 

cwilliams38447.0602083333,

This issue came up once before and when I investigated I could find no error in the html that aspprotect generates and those files do exist where they are supposed to. We concluded it was a parsing error from the log file system.

There just really isn't anything I can do about it. I spent a week trying to figure it out. It is just the log parser screwing up under certain circumstances where there is no reason anything is wrong. They have trouble dealing with some of the complex URL/querystrings that the ASPProtect admin area uses. They think there is a 404 eror when there isn't... etc etc

,


Timecard Entry: 3/25/2006 1:49:44 PM

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