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We have been using ASP Protect for a while now and are big fans of the program.  We received ASP Banner 8.2 with our puchase which we now have a need for.  I went to put the files on our webpage, and doing nothing else other than locating the directory there, I noticed differences with how ASP Protect operates.  We have customized it a bit and want to keep the 2 programs separate.  the login screen for one showed up on the other, and some ASP Protect pages appeared altered so i immediately deleted ASP Banner.  did I do something wrong, and how can i ensure the 2 programs work completely independant of each other?  We can't risk braking what we're now using but would really like to add banner functionality to some of our pages.  maybe an update to the program before we install?  puchase new software?  Thanks for your help-

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sure, there are reasons AOL would block the email.. it might think it is spam or it might not like the fact that fact that a cdonts generated email has no MX records because it can not..

for more on MX records read my CDOSYS article
http://www.powerasp.com/content/new/sending_email_cdosys.asp


as far as the emails not being sent because notifications are off. I was not aware of that and will try to look into it.. Version 6 is no longer worked on but if I can find the time I will check that out

 

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... doesn't seem to be working on my site. I expect I did something wrong.

I've created some groups, "week", "month", and "year". Their IDS are 6, 5, and 4, respectivelty. When someone goes through the PayPal signup, he's assigned to one of those groups based on his subscription.

When I see a new subscriber and check the relevant group the person's supposed to be in, that person's not in that group. I'm adding them manually for now, but I'd sure like a solution for when I go to sleep...

My subscription code looks like this:

input type="hidden" name="custom" value="5,*4*,<% =User_ID %>

One-off code looks like this:

option selected value="7,4.95,1,*6*"

I've created the groups in my management console. Is there anywhere or anything else I'm missing?

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all I can say is try other things...  like

mail.yoursite.com

or

smtp.yoursite.com

etc etc etc

replacing yoursite with the name of your domain of course


the settings for sending email via ASP are no different then the settings you would use in outlook or something... except sometimes on the server level localhost works as the email server because they set it up to allow that

and of course those 3rd party emailing components need to actually be installed on the server

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Making progress. I have made the appropriate settings and now I have the option to upload.  When I upload, I get the following message:

 "Your upload did not succeed, most likely because your browser does not support Upload via this mechanism.

Your browser must support a standard called RFC 1867. Please check with your browser vendor for support of this standard"

I am using IE6 XP SP2.  I also am using DUNDAS UPLOAD, ASPIMAGE.

I think I set permissions correctly bot not positive.  I have given all auth to everyone for the database etc.

, Thanks Chris,

Disallowed Parent Path

The Include file '../dataconn_inc.asp' cannot contain '..' to indicate the parent directory. 

When you get an error like this it is because parent paths are disabled on the web server. This is a setting in the IIS console for your website.

If it is not enabled on you server you will have to ask your host to enable parent paths for your website.

This is what the settings screen looks like on an XP Machine



Additional Information:

It is enabled by default on IIS4-IIS5 but in IIS6 it is disabled by default.
It is a minor security risk to have enabled and some hosts can be difficult about setting it.

Truth is, if your hosting ASP for customers you need to enable this setting if the customer requests it. Especially since 90% of the ASP applications out there require the setting.

Hosting companies should if they are serious about hosting ASP.


If they won't your only option is to go through all the code and convert the file includes to virtual includes.

http://www.powerasp.com/content/code-snippets/includes.asp

The trouble with virtual includes is they are different depending on the layout of your website. (that's why web application developers generally don't use them)

Basically if you are in a sub domain the path for the virtual include is going to be different then if you were in the root.. etc etc

Also.. someone developing on a local machine would need totally different virtual includes on the development server than they would on the live server. Server Side includes are processed before ASP so there is no way to make them SMART, so to speak. Server Side includes are hardcoded and that's that.

In my opinion virtual includes are pretty useless for commercial web based applications...  Since you don't know where the customers plan to install the apps.
And YES there are some tricks when designing the applications that make it less of an issue but they are not perfect solutions.

For example...

The virtual include below would work if the application or code was installed in the root
<!--#include virtual = /somefile.asp"-->

But if the application or code was installed in a directory called "somedirectory" the virtual include directive would need to look like this

<!--#include virtual = "/somedirectory/somefile.asp"-->

cwilliams38391.6033101852, O.K. , I register myself as a user.  No problem,  Iget an e-mail saying account active.  No problem.  I click the link in the e-mail.  No problem.  I click sign in and get this message.  Big problem!!

Microsoft VBScript compilation error '800a0411'

Name redefined

/aspprotect/config_inc.asp, line 15

Dim  Address_Required,CDONTS_Installed,City_Required,Registration _Type,VerifyURL,Log_Off_Page
----^
  cwilliams38456.0969444444,

I wonder if this could this be a FrontPage problem. I deleted the skins folder and re-ftp'd the original one that only contains default and Solid Black. I logged in and tried to change it back to default but it won't. I'm going to try making this folder a Frontpage subweb to see if that makes a difference.

Al

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Ok time for some more questions!!!

Is there a way to make the person's email address their default username... or force it in somehow instead of allowing them to create their own?

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at this point I would say install a fresh untouched copy in the web in a different directory and lets see if it acts weird from scratch.. the we can go from there.. I dont know what is going on

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sorry.. you just said above you were using XP SP2 so that is the article I referred you to as I just assumed you were talking about your local web server

here is my article on permissions regarding server 2003
http://www.powerasp.com/content/new/windows_2003_server_and_ permissions.asp

I can look at your installation monday if you like. In about an hour I leave for a wedding thingie and I wont be around again untill monday around noon

Try the uploading using VBSCRIPT method just for the heck of it. Perhaps there is an issue with the installation of the dundas component.

CJW


 

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ok, well if you want to test on your own....  in the ipn.asp file for the subscription folder you will see this area of code used for testing

' Un-comment this section and give this directory proper permissions to enable logging to a text file
' Very helpful for troubleshooting
'   Set ObjMyFile = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
'   LogFileName = ("paypal.txt")
'   'Open Text File.. If doesn't exist create it and append to it .. If exists just append to it
'   Set WriteMyData = ObjMyFile.OpenTextFile(Server.MapPath("paypal.txt"),8,True)
'   RowHeaderString =  ""
'   RowHeaderString =  RowHeaderString & OrderID & vbTab
'   RowHeaderString =  RowHeaderString & Custom & vbTab
'   RowHeaderString =  RowHeaderString & User_ID & vbTab
'   RowHeaderString =  RowHeaderString & subscr_id & vbTab
'   RowHeaderString =  RowHeaderString & txn_type & vbTab
'   RowHeaderString =  RowHeaderString & subscr_date & vbTab
'   RowHeaderString =  RowHeaderString & Access_level & vbTab
'   RowHeaderString =  RowHeaderString & Groups
'   WriteMyData.WriteLine(RowHeaderString)
'   WriteMyData.Close

now that folder will need modify permissions for the text file to be written to but this is a good way to test if the ipn.asp page ever gets hit by paypal.

ITS REAL IMPORTANT THAT THE TEST FILE CAN BE WRITTEN TO OR DOING THIS WILL JUST CAUSE MORE ISSUES

To ensure the text file can be written to and permissions are correct for that folder you can make a new .asp in there and run this to see if the text file writing works

   Set ObjMyFile = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
   LogFileName = ("paypal.txt")
   'Open Text File.. If doesn't exist create it and append to it .. If exists just append to it
   Set WriteMyData = ObjMyFile.OpenTextFile(Server.MapPath("paypal.txt"),8,True)
   WriteMyData.WriteLine("the file was written to")
   WriteMyData.Close

Now, you can even change the location of the text file to place that does have permissions if you like.

This is what I would do if I was in there... then I would make some test payments using 1 cent and another paypal account (your allowed 2)

and see what happens

it is always possible the subscription code may have a bug in it. The last time I tested I only tested the single payment folder which worked perfectly. If I have time in the next couple days I am going to test the subscription stuff again. If there is something wrong I can cure it quickly.

The two routines share a lot of code in common.

cwilliams38421.6488773148,

Just an update,,,

 

the permission were all correct.... i left it and tried from my pc at work and it works fine... so i dont know what hahhpened.... thansk for your quick response

 

regards

Domenic

Sydney, Australia

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ok

thanks

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I just did a quick google search... found a ton of info on how to find the setting. Here is one...



These are directions for IIS6 but the process is similar for IIS4-5

  1. Click Start, click Administrative Tools, and then click Internet Information Services (IIS) Manager.
  2. Double-click your computer name in the left pane, and then double-click Web Sites.
  3. Locate the Web site and directory that houses the ASP application.
  4. Right-click the application site or directory, and then click Properties.
  5. Select Home Directory, and then click Configuration.
  6. Click Options, and then click to select the Enable Parent Paths check box.
  7. Click OK two times.
cwilliams38148.5822453704,

If you still cant see the upload buttons after checking the settings send me a PM with the info and I will take a look at your installation. It will have to be up on a live server of course.

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Great software.

How easy would it be to copy the email address entered at registration directly into the login id field so that the user's email address is automatically used as the login id? 

Also, where in the code can I turn off the random password generator - I'd rather force people to pick something they can remember themselves.

Thanks,

Nick

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Regarding installation in a subfolder

Though this should be common sense and ASP.NET 101 "so to speak" One thing not mentioned in the docs..


If you do not install ASPProtect.NET in the true root of a web there a key in the web config you must adjust.

it looks like this

<forms name=".aspprotect~net" loginUrl="/aspprotectlogin.aspx" protection="All" timeout="60" path="/" />

The way it comes it is valid for a root installation..

lets say you installed the application in folder called.
"aspprotectnet"

the key would change to this


<forms name=".aspprotect~net" loginUrl="/aspprotectnet/aspprotectlogin.aspx" protection="All" timeout="60" path="/" />

cwilliams38454.3830439815, Attached is a SQL script to create the ASPProtect Database with the Option Pack Changes already applied. This lets you create the database in one step and you wont have to make the option pack changes as they are already there.

This only applies to people using MSSQL and doing a new installation.

This scripts are run via SQL Enterprise Manager.

You make a new database then run this script on it in query manager.

2004-06-14_180056_aspprotect_w_option_pack.zip cwilliams38152.7522569444, Done!

I was able to put my experience was based on *40 months* of usage! I think I bought a version way back in 2001, IIRC, so it's been a long, happy trip with ASPProtect for me!
, the no concurrent login feature is based on IP addresses.. if you logged in again using the same IP address it would let you in regardless. So for example if you were behind a rhome router and logged in to a site on the internet it would nt matter if you had multiple computers at home because they would all have the same external IP address... etc etc

In other words it is tricky to correctly test..

I really need more detailed info on everything going on. I real world scenarios there are no issues with that feature that I know of. At least according to customers so far. ,

I really do not know for sure, but I imagine there are customers using their windows hosting. Usually I do not know what hosting company a customer uses and I am usualy the only one that responds to forum questions.

Why not download the current Free lite version and try it out ?

CJW

 

 

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If you have found out that parent paths are disabled on the web server you can still use the application.

Before you continue.

If it is your server consider enabling parent paths to solve the problem.

If it is not your server consider asking them to enable parent paths for your web site to solve the problem.

If that is not possible please download this zip file.
2005-02-20_150703_aspprotect_v7.x_alternate_include_file_pat hs.zip

This zip file contains 3 sets of alternate files depending on your situation. You simply replace your existing aspprotect v7.x files with these new ones.

The zip file contains the following folders and files.



Below is the contents of the readme.txt file which explains everything.

The following folders each have a version of all the files in the ASPProtect system that might need to be edited in case you need to change the paths for the server side include files. There are 3 different scenarios.


(parent paths enabled) - This is the way the application comes.
The files in this folder have FILE server side includes containing "../" information. While these includes will work when the applicaion in is any location of a website they will not work if parent paths are disabled on the web server. Generally you will want to use these on your xp development machine. You can of course use them on your real server if parent paths are enabled. Parent Paths are now disabled on II6 by default and some hosting company will not enable them.


(domain root)
The files in this folder have VIRTUAL server side includes in them.
These includes only work when the applicaion is installed in the root of your web domain. For example if your domain was called "www.somedomain.com" the following aspprotect files and folders would end up like this
"http://www.somedomain.com/check_user_inc.asp"
"http://www.somedomain.com/password_admin"
"http://www.somedomain.com/users"


(domain directory)
The files in this folder have VIRTUAL server side includes in them.
These includes only work when the applicaion is installed in a directory called "aspprotect" in the root of your web domain. For example if your domain was called "www.somedomain.com" the
following aspprotect files and folders would end up like this
"http://www.somedomain.com/aspprotect/check_user_inc.asp"
"http://www.somedomain.com/aspprotect/password_admin"
"http://www.somedomain.com/aspprotect/users"

You can change the name of the "aspprotect" directory but you will will have to edit the includes in the files.


Lastly, if you are on a local machine and insist on using the VIRTUAL INCLUDES you would also use the (domain directory files) even though you dont have a domain on your local machine most likely
For example if your site was installed like so.
"http://localhost/aspprotect/check_user_inc.asp"
"http://localhost/aspprotect/password_admin"
"http://localhost/aspprotect/users"


cwilliams38403.6836342593, Chris,

Well some good news! This from my hosting company this morning...

"
I'd say that the vendor is right so I've submitted a work order to
create the *****.com/aspnetprotect directory as an application.
If there are any other directories for which this needs to be done,
please let us know. This particular task always needs to be performed
by our staff.


If you need to follow up on this job with one of our on-line or phone
technicians, you can reference ticket id 11860.

With regards
"

Thanks for your help thus far

Andy
cwilliams38455.5654513889,

Hi Chris:

Is there a way I can include the username and password in the URL of a protected page to gain access to a that page without going through the log-in page?

I'm not quite sure what the syntax would be in the URL.

Warren

, After you click the link in the confirmation e-mail you are directed to the Thank you page.  Right above is a sign in link.  When I click this I get that funky error message.

I am trying to integrate  the scripts with the look of my site,  if that is what you mean by changing things around too much.  But, I don't think I have done anything out of the ordinary.

Cheers,
Roy
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What am i supposed to do now... i do have another member server that is not a domain controller-

 

However, i have like 5 websites running on this domain controller already. I have thought about this before how its a HUGE security risk but it will take too long to configure everything on the other computer :(

, I posted this in the wrong forum. Sorry.

I have installed ASPProtect on a client's website and I have been notified that some of their customers have been unable to login to the protected pages.

On testing it seems that the issues seem to be related to how cookies are being stored by IE 6.

ASPProtect is being used to protect particular template files within a Content Mangement System. 90% of the time it is working fine but on the odd occassion particular cutomers are unabe to login.

After quite a bit of testing I have managed to find the scenario in which it starts to have problems and was hoping you may be able to provide a solution.

If a customer enters the wrong password, then reenters the correct username and password, they receive a message "template can not be found" from the Content Management System. This message is generated when a url is entered that contains a link to a template file that does not exist. In this case the template does exist. If I remove the ASPProtect code the page opens without error.

Everytime they re-enter the details they receive the same message.

If they close down the browser and then reenter the correct details in some instances the page will open correctly.

More often than not, they have to delete cookies and temporary files and  close the browser. This seems to fix the problem again for most users. For users who's web access is heavily cached by an internal server, even this does not work.

Have you come across this problem before and can you suggest a remedy.

If you can email me privately I can give you the URL and access codes.

Thanks,

Stuart ,

Thank you so so much! I went to the admin area and changed the email component from CDOSYS (using remote server) to CDOSYS (using port 25 forwarding) and all is working great now!

Again, thanks!

, It works. Thanks Chris. ,

ahhh ok.. I was going to wait till morning to answer this one..

glad ya figured it out

 

, does emailing work at the simplest level.. ??

meaning does a user get an email when you send an email from the admin users screen ?

if emails are not sending it could very well be the setting you have chosen for emails in the settings.

the best thing to do is keep trying to send an email there and try different emails settings until you get something that works... even when I do installs for people I often have to try a lot of various things before I get emails to send.. like picking different components and trying different things for the email server address because what they tell me is often wrong

also, sometimes emails get sent but depending on where they go they may get deleted as spam.. aol, hotmail, msn, and yahoo are famous for that ,

Dear Christofer

I already have send you the details you asked me for. Please let me know if you have received

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Hello,
 
As I have my site hosted by a web hosting company (1and1.com), I want to make sure the ASP Photo Gallery software runs correctly before I buy. I am not sure about whether or not they support parent paths because I can find nothing in the online faqs. But, I have two other ASP apps (Forum and News from Web Wiz) running on the site, both connecting to Access databases. I remember having problems initially setting these up because I kept trying to use paths like ../db/wwforum.mdb like I would normally do when referencing images or pages in other folders.
 
Anyway, here are the database connection strings for the two apps. The first is for the Forum, which is at /forum/common.asp connecting to a database in /db/wwForum.mdb. The second is for the News, at /news/common.asp accessing /db/news.mdb.
 
'Virtual path to database
 strDbPathAndName = Server.MapPath("/db/wwForum.mdb")
 
'Database connection info and driver
strCon = "DRIVER={Microsoft Access Driver (*.mdb)}; DBQ=" & Server.MapPath("/db/news.mdb")
 
Thanks for your help, hopefully I'll be setting up my new galleries this weekend!
 
- Jason
, Okay, I'm going nuts trying to find that settings screen.

I've got a dedicated server that I connect to using "Remote Desktop Connection" so it looks like a regular Windows desktop. It's running Windows Server 2003.

There's a program called "IIS Manager" but I've looked at all the options for all the different sections and I don't find anything that looks even remotely like that screen.  And, of course, Windows Help is no help at all.

What program do I run to get to that configuration screen?

  Thanks,

  Robert Gidley
, Just checked XML Parsing with your file. Got a clean bill of health on that: It's working.

Got the right code for the location of the ipn.asp in my paypal1.asp, from http:// all the way to .asp.

I think since everything is set up properly from the looks of things, I'll wait and see. If I get another one who flubs things, then I'll start the testing of the account. But if it goes through just fine, then maybe the Internet just hiccoughed on the first guy... thanks again!


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Got any info for me on this ?

Chris

, Well I still haven't gotten it to work yet completely.  I tried to import the users again and it imported some, but timed out again.  Trying to log in takes forever...ready to jump back on this one?,
I had a question about user registration and how it works, mainly because I am having a problem.
 
When a user registers, with the email verification setting, I am assuming that there is supposed to be a new record created in the USERS table in the database. What could cause this not to happen?
 
Actually, in testing further I found that with the setting at Auto, Manual, or email, the record is not added to the table. And, if I am logged in as admin, the Add User button does not do anything.
 
I can however edit and delete user records...
 
Hmmm, adding a Category yields the same thing. And loggin in as a non-admin user still displays some of the menu items for admin, but then gives a page can not be found error if you click on one (ie, approve).
 
This looks like a db issue to me, I will have to try this with access and on a test server...
 
Any thoughts?
 
- Jason
 
 
cwilliams38303.8507291667,


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