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The company is called Eschelon - there customer service leaves a lot to be desired. I have contacted them again and they said that they require the account holder to manage permissions, they won't make changes. I wish they would have told me that a week ago when I asked them about changing the permissions. They haven't responded to me yet how I am to do that though.

Frontpage ext. are not installed.

Once I hear back from them about how I connect to manage rights I should be all set.

Thanks again for all your help!

, Very weird for sure but I guarantee no code in ASPProtect is deleting that folder. Something else is going on the server and deleting it and I have no idea what it would be.

Maybe try leaving a blank text file in it and see if the folder disappears after a few days.,



all that docmunetation is online as well right here so you dont really need the chm file
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/info24.htm

the chm format is a windows format that can only be viewed on windows pcs. I do not know why you can not see it. I would do reseach on viewing CHM files on whatever operating system and version you are running because perhaps you are using a mac or linux operating system which can not natively view chm files ?

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yes. what you are talking about has to do with norton ad blocking software.. it blocks images or paths that have the word "ad" in them.. and you see red x's where images should be on web sites.. usually

it is different then what this thread initially mentions which has to do with a code/server issue with the application variables.

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It's just a generic error that means one of 1000 different things is wrong.. there is a lot of information on in in these forums as well as links to articles about it.

http://support.cjwsoft.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27& PN=1

usually it means permissions to the database folder are incorrect or the physical path you are specifying for your dsn-less connection is invalid..

everything has to be perfect

 

cwilliams38370.5271296296,

Hi,

Could you please advise what may be causing this error:

Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80004005'

[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver]General error Unable to open registry key 'Temporary (volatile) Jet DSN for process 0x57a4 Thread 0x5474 DBC 0xf03a704 Jet'.

/ASPProtect/check_user_inc.asp, line 292

 

Funny thing is that if I refesh the page with the above error it gives me the following eror:

/ASPProtect/check_user_inc.asp, line 292

and after few times of refreshing the page it shows me the page I am after.

Is this my promlem or ISP's.

Thank you

,
This post unfortutely needs to be here because this application has been the biggest pain in the neck for me you could possibly imagine. This is not because of problems with the application, but because of people's general lack of knowlegde regarding ASP.NET. This post totally voices my stance on what sort of knowledge you need to have and also the fact that I am not going to support anything but general installation on a correctly and professionaly set up live server.

ASPProtect.NET is a great application but using ASP.NET requires a lot more basic knowledge than using classic ASP and there are a lot of basic low level ASP.NET things that need to be set up correctly for an application like ASPProtect.NET to run. These are things I do not cover because you should know the ASP.NET basics when using an application as complex as this. It's just that I don't have time to nor should I have to teach people the basics of ASP.NET. I don't charge nearly enough for ASPProtect.NET to offer that kind of support.

So, I will say it one more time. ASPProtect.NET is targeted towards experienced Visual Studio.NET developers that know how to work with Code Behind VB.NET and are familiar with basic ASP concepts such as IIS application settings, the .NET framework, the
aspnet_client folder, and the basics of the web.config file.  If you are using ASP.NET for whatever reason you need to know about these things. The best way is to get some good books and do set up ASP.NET on a local development machine so you can start learning.

If you are one of the ASP.NET challenged let me say this as well.

Stick with Classic ASP. ASP.NET is a step in the wrong direction for the average user which I like to refer to as "Joe Coder". Classic ASP is very powerful and easy to pick up. ASP.NET is not easy to pick up and never will be for a lot of people. In my opinion it’s actually the wrong technology to use for anyone other than big corporations who need extreme scalability in their applications or for the hobbyist or object oriented programmer who just wants to use the latest and greatest.  Ask yourself if you really want to deal with compiling Code Behind code each time you make changes to your web site as opposed to just editing some files in notepad real quick like you can do with classic ASP ? Do you have the money to purchase and use Visual Studio.NET or are you going to struggle with compiling all your ASP.NET pages using a command line compiler and a batch file ? Yes, you can build ASP.NET code that isn't code behind but why even bother if that is the case because your missing the point of ASP.NET if you do that and missing out on a lot of powerful new features and concepts.

When I do custom projects for bigger clients I usually end up using ASP.NET because they want to go that way and understand the time and money involved. When I do any of my own projects I use Classic ASP because the truth is you can still make some rockin busy scalable web sites with Classic ASP just like you can still make great web sites with CGI, PP, Cold Fusion.. etc etc. Look around the web because a lot of the biggest sites out there still use those scripting technologies and their stuff runs very well. ASP.NET is a lot of hype and although some things about it are plain awesome it is an environment best suited for real object oriented programmers, not the weekend code warriors.

The other thing to keep in mind about classic ASP is the shear abundance of applications and scripts available for it. ASP.NET can be expensive for that reason alone as there still is a shortage of good time tested applications out there and what is out there is always priced a lot higher.

In addition to that half of the ASP.NET applications out there are just half baked poorly converted versions of their Classic ASP counterparts. Is that the kind of thing you want to sink twice the money into or would you rather have something that runs well and has been tweaked year after year into a rock solid product?

To make things worse a lot of the hosting companies out there offering ASP.NET hosting are severely limiting the basic abilities of ASP.NET because of various security concerns. This means if you go with a Host that does that 75% of the asp.net stuff out there won't run on the hosted server. Isn't that wonderful ?

Now, Let's make things even worse. So far every time Microsoft has released a new version of ASP.NET a lot of things from the previous version have stopped working and needed to be modified to work correctly. Is that really something you will have the time, resources, and energy to deal with.

You may ask "but is classic ASP going to be around 5 years from now?" Though you never really know until the new version of windows server ships I say "Hell Yes" it will be. According to my sources at Port80 Software who work very closely with the folks at Microsoft (as well as many other sources out there) it will almost certainly be in Longhorn which is the next version of Windows Server. Longhorn probably won't come out until 2007 and will be popular for 3-4 years after that. The version of windows server after that will most likely support Classic ASP as well and if it doesn't I am sure there will be a way to make ASP run on it.  If you really look around a lot of hosting companies are still running Windows Server 2000 which is 5 years old at the moment. The bottom line is Classic ASP helped put Microsoft web technologies on the map. Microsoft can not simply drop it because if they do they give up a dominate market share to the scripting competition being PHP, CGI, Cold Fusion.. etc etc PHP for instance a huge installed base on many platforms which are essentially free. ASP.NET can not compete with that in any way and not supporting Classic ASP would put microsoft in a bad position.

Take it from me. If you are a weekend code warrior/script kiddie. You'll be a lot happier sticking with classic ASP. You will also have save a lot of money and you can still have great web sites. There are tons of great applications out there in ASP and ASP still is and always will be the easiest scripting language to work with and learn. Better yet look around on sites like www.4guysfromrolla.com and see if you actually understand any of the latest articles. If it looks like Greek to you that is yet another sign that you should stick to classic ASP.

Personally, I will be focusing just as much time and effort on ASP.NET as I will on Classic ASP in the years to come for a few reasons.
  1. Because I sell software I obviously need to convert/re-write most of my appIications to work with ASP.NET. My living may eventually depend on it.
     
  2. Because I love using the latest technologies I want to continue to develop using ASP.NET.
     
  3. Because I do many custom projects for various clients using ASP.NET is a must.
  4. Because in some cases using ASP.NET over classic ASP makes total sense.

Just don't fall for the HYPE folks. I am one of the few established developers out there that has a set of Balls and is willing to put the truth out there and see past the bullsh*t. If you go ASP.NET do it because you seriosuly think you need the power and scalabilty and money and time is not an issue or because you are a hobbiest and object oriented programmer who likes working with and has time to work with the latest and greatest web scripting technolgies out there. I truly believe that so far ASP.NET is as much a success as it is a failure. I am sure some of you out there know what I mean by that.

All this being said you should also realize that ASPProtect.NET is a little different than your average ASP.NET application because it uses a lot of advanced ASP.NET techniques and you essentially use it to password protect your existing scripts meaning you need to integrate your stuff with our stuff in a sense. If you just go buy some random ASP.NET application like a classifieds system or storefront it is probably just going to run on it's own an therefore will be a lot easier to set up and deal with.

Here are some links you folks should read as well.
http://rtfm.atrax.co.uk/infinitemonkeys/articles/asp/905.asp
http://www.itnewsgroups.net/group/microsoft.public.inetserve r.asp.general/topic2074.aspx
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;%5Bln%5D;L ifeWin

Chris Willians
http://www.cjwsoft.com/about.asp

,

Hello,

I have ASPprotect 7 installed on my remote server.  I am able to go to the examples/default.asp page and login in without any difficulties.  If I copy the code from that page and paste it in a new page called the same thing but in a different folder, I get this error;  (Keep in mind that this is essentially the same exact page in a different location of the website)

Error Type:
Active Server Pages, ASP 0126 (0x80004005)
The include file '../../check_user_inc.asp' was not found.
/aspprotect/Pages/default.asp, line 3

I get the same error if I paste the "protection code" I have generated into the top of a current (.asp) page in my site.

Basically, the only pages that work are the ones that came with the program as examples.  Thats great, but now I need to make it work for my pages.  Any thoughts?

,

I've got an ecommerce module that's running on it that uses access for the db.  Connecting into that thing is slow as well, but I figured that's because of the complications and volume it handles.

So as far as importing on a faster machine and copying it over to the server...what suggestions do you have?

,

Sounds cool.. post info when you get it sorted out

thx

hopefully someday I'll get the new version finished.. I just never seem to have time. Lately ASPProtect takes up all my time and now aspclassifieds seems to be in need of a new version more so than asp photo gallery

 

,
Actually, I think I just found my answer...
 
I will take out the StrToFix = Replace(StrToFix," "," ") bit of code and see what happens...
 
- Jason
 
Jawa38406.4721412037,

I dont know about your error on line 6 when uploading..

as far as the manaully edited import file not working I would really need to see it. There has to be somethin wrong with it's format.

I really need more information and possibly acess to the system to do some troubleshooting...

This is anot a feature anyone has ever had an issue like this with.

,

Anyone have any experience configuring PhotoGallery to use a backend mySQL database?

The application connects successfully for Read operations, but no amount of troubleshooting can get it to Write records to the tables.

http://www.marc-lisa.com/photos/default.asp

, also, from looking at your site your ideal scenario would be a system that allows you to show all banners in one zone at any given time but in a different order.

ASPBanner is just not that sort of system. It is only designed to show one banner at a time from a given zone in random order.,

ok... lets forget about all this redirecting business for a minute

when I go to "GP01.asp" directly via your web site I get a big nasty error that says this

Microsoft VBScript compilation error '800a0411'

Name redefined

/protect/config_inc.asp, line 15

Dim  Address_Required,CDONTS_Installed,City_Required,Registration _Type,VerifyURL,Log_Off_Page
----^ 








then when I look at what you did in that file I see why



you have this code which is totally wrong because you cannot include the password protection file twice
<%@ LANGUAGE="VBSCRIPT" %>
<!--#INCLUDE FILE="check_user_inc.asp"-->
<% GROUPACCESS = "*1*" %>
<!--#INCLUDE FILE="check_user_inc.asp"-->



 
it should be
<%@ LANGUAGE="VBSCRIPT" %>

<% GROUPACCESS = "*1*" %>
<!--#INCLUDE FILE="check_user_inc.asp"-->
and that is probably the root of this entire problem.. the redirection was working...
but you were sending them to invalid pages with errors

all those pages are wrong...
if you dont see the real error above see this
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo11-1.htm


if you look over the aspprotect 7 installation instructions that is the very 1st thing I tell people to do


hopefully this is the info you need to continue and get some work done
,

Below is the email I received when testing the self-registration. Does anyone know what setting I configured incorrectly?

I received the email to confirm the registration but the link to activate is invalied.

Thanks!

Your registration still has to be validated.
Go to
?u=bubbaj&v=4579
to verify your registration.

,

yes, usernames and passwords are both case sensitive. It increases security.

,

one last thing... if you did an upgrade from a previous version and didnt do the whole database field thing right during the upgrade process as stated here you could have trouble.
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo174-1.htm

Meaning you should check your new database with the field structure of an unmodified new database and make sure all field names match up perfectly.. especially paying attention to the username and password fields

One last thing..
If you did an import via text file and didn't import all the fields ASPProtect needs you could possibly have problems as well.. though I don't think this relates to the timeout so it probably is not the case

,

Christopher,

 

Thank you again Sir. Your quick responses and helpful demeanor add greatly to the value of your software.

,

Hi,

Sorry, but the way the system works you can not call an individual banner like that. It just not something the system was meant to do.

If you wanted a specific banner to show up at all times you would have to make an individual banner and a zone just for that.

After looking at your site since you have so many banners there I dont know if that is the greatest option for you. It would also put a lot of stress of the Version 7 software because it is not really meant to call so many banners zones at one time on one page.

If you could live with tracking clicks on the home page but not displays I would suggest making banners for the home page in one zone. Then hard coding the banner images into your homepage like you already do but linking to the tracking part of aspbanner instead of where they would usually link to. That way you could at least track clicks and there owuld be no performance issues.

for example.. one of the images might link to
http://www.poconocommuter.com/aspbanner/banner_redirect.asp? Banner_ID=4

which would track clicks for you.. and then send then wherever they are supposed to go

, not sure, I havent used 2005 yet

seems like the process should be fairly similar.. you'll have to figure it out

I am going to order a copy of it.,

i downloaded the latest version. i also downloaded the sql script provided and ran in sql query analyser to create the tables.

After that i ran a special page to intially get into the system,

then setup a new user, then make them an admin,

and after that i logged out and again when i try to login iam not able to login.  When i check the ASpp_User table I noticed that the values in the fields "Login_limit" and "Active" in the ASPP_Users table in the SQL changed to NULL and 0. But if the value are Nulls or 0 it means it's not active and it's not allowing me to login.

Pls advice

 

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Ya, you must have tried to upgrade from a really really old version like you said which wouldnt really work out because those instructions are specifically for upgrading a version 6 database to version 7.

That line error you had was looking for the User_ID field and I bet the version you had was so old that you didnt have a field named that as a few years ago the field "ID" got renamed to "User_ID"

As for all the cool stuff... yup there is a lot of cool stuff in this version... glad ya like it so far

cwilliams38418.8164930556, Please forgive my question in advance, I'm sure I've overlooked the answer somewhere obvious. I'm sorry!

I'm wondering if it is possible to customize the appearance of the banner stats login page or the admin pages.  I'd really like the banner stats pages to look more like my own site or at least have my logo on there or something like that so that my advertisers can see that it is my site when checking their stats.  However, I want to do this without violating copyright, etc.

Can someone point me in the right direction or shut down my hope?

Thanks!

Laura
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Just as an FYI, I found the problem.  FP2003 has an "Optimize" feature that removes so called not needed spaces and comments from the pages.  It also completely screws up .ASP code.

I turned off the optimization feature and all the pages I was having problems with worked.  However, I would still recommend not using it too!

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Parent paths being enabled on the server is a requirement of the application. That error means just what it says.

you can change all the server side includes to virtual includes that will work or you can ask you host to enable parent paths.. those are the options

more here...
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo5-1.htm

 

, did anyone find a way to get the descriptions to show under the image yet? ,

The redirection at 1st login feature is supposed to work like I explain in this thread.

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo385-1.htm

Though what you just said is a bit confusing it sounds like you have some sort of browser problem and it is doing the redirect every single time. ?

I would suggest reseting all your browser settings to normal and making sure cookies are enabled because forms based authentication uses session variables and cookies must be enabled for session variables to work correctly. If not something like this could happen as the redirection at 1st login would happen over and over every time.

So try it on other computers and try with firefox as well as IE. Many people go nuts with their browser settings and way too much stuff blocked which can cuse all sorts of issues. Also some script blocking and firewall software can cause problems so disable all of that when testing.

You may also have created some sort of endless loop. (I really need to know way more information on what you did to know that for sure)

You may also want to consider doing your redirects manually meaning you protect a a page and right after the protection you use regular ASP redirect statements to redirect the user whevever you like based on their session info which is available to easily check immediatly after someone gets through the authentication.

I still stand behind my statements that redirection is not good site design. You really really need to understand and plan your ASP pages as well as have a very good understanding of the session and how all of that works if you use redirection with a password authentication scenario. You should never be redirecting someone to an ".htm" pages except during testing because you wont be able to stop users who are not supposed to go there from going there directly.

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humm, yea thats a data connection error..
really not related to the asp code in the application for the most part.

that is low level


If using MSACCESS

I would make sure permissions are set correctly on the database folder (not just the database file itself)

I would make sure your using at least a 2000 version of the database. 2003-2003 format being better.. 

I would make sure the server has up to date mdac/odbc drivers.. (that is really the server admins responsibility)


As for permissions there are articles in our forums about exactly how they need to be set. Improper permissions can cause a ton of random errors like that.

cwilliams38414.6528240741,

Access Database Password

By default all of the Access Databases we give out have a default password of "temp"

The Default username that and Access database uses is "Admin" but you should not be concerned with that except in your connection strings.

The default password for the Access Database can only be changed using Microsoft Access to do so. If you have security concerns it would make sense to change the password. The help system built into Microsoft Access best explains how to do that.

cwilliams38403.6820833333, just FYI -- i added in a new data table into the database.  I havent finished implementing the whole thing across the entire site, but it wasn't too difficult.  Once I have all of the functionality complete I'll post some details.  Some of the changes are the addition of a new album nav style which combines style 2 and some of the features of the new data table.

Very easy app to work with guys.
,

you actually dont touch any of those
UploadDirectory = CmdGetConfiguration("UploadDirectory")
They get set from the config table in the database which gets edited in the admin area.

so...

I am talking about the settings area in the admin area of the applicaton.
Every setting there is descibed in detail. You get there and change serttings there via the web browser and by logging in as the admin.

Log in to the online demo as admin and check out the settings area if you are confused.
http://www.aspphotogallery.com/demo_pro.asp

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No I didn't...

The one I tried is the hosted one at my provider which I gave you the link for.

Thanks very much.  I will get that one and it may be much easier if I need to get into the Nitty Gritty of the database at some time.

Thanks

,

Hi

I would like to ensure the the user uses a UK style postcode not a clue how to ensure this as I am new to asp. Any ideas?

 

regards

John

, I will give you permission to move it since you asked.,

like I said... you would have to modify the code
(and really I dont think it is possible, how could it be when images uploaded are of all shapes and sizes)

How are pictures of various shapes and size going to resized to a fixed width and height without distortion on either a horizontal or vertical level ? Uness the image uploaded matches the fixed thumbnail ratio you have set there is going to be distortion.

There is no component that is going to make it any easier. You are already using an image resizing component.

I give you two options the way the code ships.

fixed width and height for thumbnails

or

fixed width / dynamic height for thumbnails

The only other possible option would be

fixed height / dynamic width for thumbnails

and that you would have to code on your own because that option is not there

The last thing I will say is this. Sorry, but I do not support custimizations to the code. It's just not easy to explain. Its a lot of code work. Its a lot of time.

, Awesome -thanks - I'll give it a try  , I assumed when it said "expected path" that it understand that was the default and unless I wanted it in a different directory I could leave that blank.  I'm checking on it now.,

I'll send you something..

,

Humm, I dont see how moving to a new server could have anything to do with that.

What method of displaying the banners are you using. Perhaps try some of the other ones.

Don't use the javascript method with a javascript based ad like google.. that's for sure.

cwilliams38454.8903472222,


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