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Blog Entry: 3/25/2006 4:30:31 PM

who knows, thanks for your input, I am further than I was when I started talking to you!,

ok.. the count your talking about wont increment until someone other than you views the page.

After that you can increment it one time...

 

It keeps track of the last IP that hit it.. if it is the same it doesn't increment

This is all by design...  so the same person doesn't increment the count over and over..

It's simplitist and it can be tricked... but it does what it needs to do 

 

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Still not having much success.  I am using SQL server.  I changed the permission in the following directory :sql server data\mssql\data.  Is that the database directory you are referring to?, I posted this in the wrong forum. Sorry.

I have installed ASPProtect on a client's website and I have been notified that some of their customers have been unable to login to the protected pages.

On testing it seems that the issues seem to be related to how cookies are being stored by IE 6.

ASPProtect is being used to protect particular template files within a Content Mangement System. 90% of the time it is working fine but on the odd occassion particular cutomers are unabe to login.

After quite a bit of testing I have managed to find the scenario in which it starts to have problems and was hoping you may be able to provide a solution.

If a customer enters the wrong password, then reenters the correct username and password, they receive a message "template can not be found" from the Content Management System. This message is generated when a url is entered that contains a link to a template file that does not exist. In this case the template does exist. If I remove the ASPProtect code the page opens without error.

Everytime they re-enter the details they receive the same message.

If they close down the browser and then reenter the correct details in some instances the page will open correctly.

More often than not, they have to delete cookies and temporary files and  close the browser. This seems to fix the problem again for most users. For users who's web access is heavily cached by an internal server, even this does not work.

Have you come across this problem before and can you suggest a remedy.

If you can email me privately I can give you the URL and access codes.

Thanks,

Stuart , remeber too.. you might have to edit code you used on your existing pages in your site so they still call the "check_user_inc.asp" correctly.. though it may very well work out so it works the way it is at the new site

any redirection code you might have done may need the redirection urls changed if you used full domain urls..

things like that... etc etc etc, Lastly, I put there information here to help, but please don't ask me any questions about it.

I am not microsoft SQL server support. If this doesn't work for you simply start troubleshooting and doing google searches like I do. ,

 

grrrrrr

As far as the users thing... my fault that was setup wrong in the settings of the admin login page.

but still dont have a solution for what im trying to do

, that erorr in no way means what it says.. it is just a generic error because something failed.

if you want to PM me info on how to get into your site and I will take a look.. I don't think it is something that can be figured out otherwise especially when you are not telling much about what is going on. There are a lot of factors and settings that are relevant. ,

I just upgraded from 6.0 to 7.0 primarily because we were limited in the choices of email systems we could use to send an email validation message.

Previously, with 6.0, we were using CDONTS to send an email validation message to new registrants. Unfortunately, AOL email addressee's were not receiving the vaildation email from us. I received a reply to another post I made on this forum that the problem was due to the fact that aCDONTS generated email has no MX record and AOL blocks non-MX record containing emails.

Well, I upgraded to 7.0, switched to CDOSYS (Using SMTP Virtual Server) with SMTP Authentication and it appears that AOL is still blocking the validation email.

Any suggestions, comments?

 

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its part of how the skins load.. regardless you got bigger problems here..

I am beginning to wonder if you unzipped the download correctly because I see things in folders they should not be in...

you should have ended up with a bunch of folders and files...

It you just ended up with a ton of files in one directory you did not unzip the zip file correctly... if so check your zip program settings.. I mean that error is because it is looking for a file in the skins folder that isn't there and it should be there

better yet, unzip the downloaded zip file using windows xp built in unzipping features which will do it correctly...

, while technically that shouldnt be showing that with two slashes that is actually valid and will not effect whether that feature works or not.

so if you are getting an error that is not the reason.. as far as windows is concerned // is the same as slash in that scenario?

what is your error? I need details. Like some code and an error at a line number ?

99% of the time it is permissions and sometimes it is related to the filesystem object being disabled on the server or script blocking software such as norton antivirus ,

More Info in Case Anyone is Interested:

This bug was mentioned by a couple people. The cause of it was never really understood until I recently re-wrote some of the banner code for an upcoming version.

The fix for this bug was very simple. It was just one of those weird situations where code should have worked but did not. I added some code to do it a bit differently and it worked as it should have..

It really still makes no sense to me why it didnt work the way it was, but at least there is a fix.

 

cwilliams38203.5883680556,

You are not supposed to use "../" with a virtual include

Thats goes against what a virtual include is and makes no sense.
When using a virtual include you give the path as if accessing from the root of the main web / virtual directory

I find it very hard to believe it ever worked like that and if it ever did it was wrong.

 

cwilliams38434.6703356481,

Tell tell me some info about your install?

How am I supposed to know what is going on when you are not showing me what you have in your web config file and also the directory structure of the install or what you are putting in a page you are trying to protect ? It almost sounds like you are not editing the paths correctly in the various places.  I mean yes you told me something about the "map" folder but what I saying is tell me more detail.

BTW: this is a very important setting in the web.config file and must be edited accordingly so the path is right.

<forms name=".aspprotect~net" loginUrl="/aspprotectlogin.aspx" protection="All" timeout="60" path="/" />



Basically your showing me random errors and posts left and right and I honestly have no idea what your doing ?

Ulitmately though I am trying to help you in this situation like the web site says.

We offer tech support for installation of the base application purchased in it's native form. In some cases in order to receive proper tech support your application will be need to be installed on a live server on the Internet. We simply cannot troubleshoot all issues when the application is only installed on your local machine.

Meaning I am not going to keep this up if you keep asking question after question after question regardign your local XP Pro installation. There is only so much I can assume or guess when you are running this on a local development server. I know you got all sorts of problems getting a decent live server to run this on but that just isn't my problem. Get this up and running on a professionaly and correctly setup live server and when these random configuration errors pop up atl least I can go run the pages and look at them.
Right now I am just confused by nearly everything you have posted today. Half of looks like basic ASP.NET path issues that you need to sort of on your own based on where you installed the application on the machine and what you have in the web.config file.. etc etc etc

It is sounding more and more like ASP.NET is way over your head. If you want a copy of the classic ASP version of ASPProtect you are welcome to it. I think you will be a lotter better off sticking to classic ASP unless you really start reading up on ASP.NET and learning more about how forms based authentication and the web.config file work.

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ok.. There are various spots that call the end_date variable.  That is why I am asking.  Then incorporating it into the forms that have been developed, made me wonder.

 

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Using "Email Authentication" as a registration option you cannot do that. There is no possible way I know of to have a delay on the authentication email like that. Also that method is not intended to involve any sort of manual registration like what you are doing.

Because you want to review people manually you need to change to registration process to "manual" and then send the email out manually from the users screen after making a user active.

, A nice addition for the listing script would be if the script would allow a "featured ad" or ads that would appear on the default page. ,

Hi,

I wanted to see if you had any suggestions for converting from Access to SQL sever database. I attempted this earlier today performing the following steps.

1) Create SQL Tables using Enterprise Manager / SQL Scripts
2) Use DTS to move all of the existing table data to the sql tables.
3) Update dataconn_inc.asp to use SQL and the required connection string.

When these steps were complete I was able to login to ASPProtect as an admin and search / find both groups and users. However, any attempt to edit or create users resulted in a "the page ... had a problem ... " type problem. It seems that I can read from the db fine but and getting errors writing to the tables. The user id that is being used to connect to the db is the [dbo].

Any additional hints for this procedure?

Thanks

Darrell

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ASPProtect v7 comes with working example code of protecting a file download.

This comes with the system as an example folder with some files in it.

(some of the initial purchaser's of the system might not have that directory.. if that is the case please ask)

Here is how it works...

Basically we protect the file download by only allowing a logged in user to download it. The special ".asp" page we use the stream the file is password protected. It also hides the true location of the file so you can keep your files out of your web or keep them in a folder in your web that does not allow file browsing. Under this scenario even if someone looks at the html source they can not tell where the file really came from and they can only download if they are logged in and you offered them the link to the file.

For the file download protection examples to work you may need to edit some values
in the stream_download.asp file that are valid for your setup.

Look at the source. The values you can edit are commented.

Now, you also need to call a valid "download file name" from the download_link.asp file which is an example of how make a download link to the streamed download.

Lastly, we provide a working example. Now, you obviously may need to customize it to fit your needs. Please realize you are going to have to make special download links in your .asp pages and not only should you only show those links to people with appropriate access to download the files, but you should also protect the streaming download page accordingly as well as far as level, groups, and particular users. What I am saying is which files a particular user is allowed to download is not automatically handled by ASPProtect in any way. We give you all the tools to provide protected downloads to logged in users, but if you have complex needs you’re probably going to need to come up with a system that works for you. It's not really difficult because we did all the complicated stuff, but its something you have to sort out.

Perhaps someday in the future ASPProtect will have an interface to upload files and associate them with certain users. But at the moment it does not.

, ASPProtect version 6 does not officially support any sort of redirection or is it a feature.

You can however do redirection after login with some basic ASP if-else statements and ASP redirects. Basically you check the session variables after successful login and send users where based on that info. You of course also need to protect any pages you send users to and make sure any people that aren't supposed to go there do not go there directly and bypass your security.

I highly frown on Redirecting during login (In my opinion it is poor site design and it defeats the purpose of dynamic web pages, there is seldom a good reason to even need to do it if you design your site well) but you can check out this thread which should give you lots of good information.

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/code_info.asp?TID=17&KW= redirect, alternate databases are right here.. the documentation clearly links to this, its really not difficult to find

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo164-1.htm,

This article from my old powerasp.com site explains what Server.MapPath is and also why you can't use it to specify the data connection in any of the CJWSoft applications.

Use ASP to determine the Physical Path Of Your Virtual Website

As this article mentions you can still use it to determine the path, but you can't use it in our data connection strings because the data connection page is an include file and server.mappath will report back different paths for the different directories....... meaning it will work in one directory level but not another as the path will be different.

 

cwilliams38084.7454282407,

But can you guess as to why the following might be happening:

1) The password is still "temp", and we verified that by checking dataconn_inc.asp ; 2) People are able to place new ads, etc. ; 3) We then download the DB.  Sometimes we are able to open up the DB just downloaded with the password "temp", but only see the USERS table.  At other times, we cannot open the same DB with any password, and get a "password not valid" message even when using the password "temp".

So what can the problem be?

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To hopefully wrap this thread up...

This user showed me his site and things were working for me as they should.

We came to the conlusion that the weird behavior he was experiencing was because he was using AutoComplete in Internet Explorer....

It was automatically filling in the fields with his username/password that he had autocomplete save.

So it was a web browser usage issue.. not the code.

cwilliams38165.5102546296,

Hello,

no default setting for something like that... what your thinking about doing is on the right track I'd say

, I really need more information..

SQL or Access database ?
If Access are you using the newest version of the .mdb file

Is this a new item ?

Show me your connection string ?

perhaps the url to the site as well so I can look around?

things like that that will help me troubleshoot.

If any info is sensative send me a PM..

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When I designed the system I never really intended people to type in long descriptions for pictures

and if they did I assumed they would use the enter key once in while..

but I guess people dont do that


This thread is along the same lines and shows what someone else did about this..

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo99-1.htm

though they are talking about a different page its the same issue

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basically one at a time because of limitations of the file uploads that browsers can support 

more on that here
http://www.aspphotogallery.com/pro_add_ons.asp


An Admins can however ftp a bunch of pics to the import folder and import them into any album all at once pretty easily

 

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Ow.
 
I haven't moved (or messed with) any critical files within the directory at all, just placed them as a job lot into a subdirectory call aspprotect.
 
All I did was put all the files directly into a directory rather than into the root because some of the subdirectories had the same name as some already in use and would therefore have been overwritten.
 
I'll go back and have another look in the cold light of day (its too late tonight UK time).
 
Thanks anyway.
, It works. Thanks Chris. ,

How to set a new users expiration date.

You'll need to edit the "users/add_new_account.asp" with a text editor.

Find this section..

<%
CmdAddUser.Fields("ValidateEmailCode") = ValidateEmailCode
CmdAddUser.Fields("Access_Level") = ""
' PUT YOUR CODE HERE
CmdAdduser.Update
ID = CmdAdduser("ID")
CmdAdduser.Close
Set CmdAdduser = Nothing
ConnPasswords.Close
Set ConnPasswords = Nothing
%>

You'll want to add code like this right between the Acccess_Level  and Updates section

CmdAddUser.Fields("Expiration_Date") = Date + 60

That will give take todays date and add 60 days to it.
You can of course do whatever you want here.

Actually, any database value for the user can be set during registration.

You can also change the default Access_Level to whatever you like.

cwilliams38403.6828587963, Well, I had no more trouble after I read the instructions.

The PayPal integration is really neat stuff! WOW!  And the email users function got up and running in a snap... this is an awesome package!

The coolest thing with the user registration is that the account username and password are selected by the user. That is very very nice. Much less typing for me to do.
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We want to insert a hyperlink i the mesage area when we e-mail users from the Password Admin area.  Is ther an easy way to insert the hyperlink so when the user gets the e-mail, they can just click on it and go the the page we want them to?

Thanks,

Andy

cwilliams38456.0983101852,

ahh, I see..

that is not really something you should change.. it is pretty much always going to say read for any folder

It's hard to say, but adjusting settings like that could inadvertently change folder permissions in a way that could cause problems and be hard to correct. I really don't know that for sure but it is very easy to totally mess up permissions when trying different things. In the past I had to reinstall iis just to get things back to normal. I eventually over time learned what to do and what not to do and have never had a problem since. I am not saying you are one of those people but a lot of people have problems because they play around with things they shouldn't or they go nuts trying to give every account permission starting from root folders... overwriting important default permissions instead of just making changes to a few specific folders.. not understanding the importance of what they are doing..... etc etc

Sometimes you practically have to be a NT expert just to fully understand permissions. I know a lot and I can handle my own server but it's hard to explain the low level basic of NT permissions to others as there is a lot to it under the scenes. A lot of hard core NT/2000 users do all the permissions from the command prompt because there is a lot more control at that level.

Like I said earlier, what you showed me looks right but this isn't a complex issue and the error means what it means. Something isn't right with the permissions.

I would start from scratch if I were you. Perhaps consider doing an install in a new web instead of in your root like you showed me. Or try installing it on another machine for troubeshooting sake.

I am sorry I can't think of some amazing answer on this one, but I think this is just one of those weird situations that requires starting from scratch or trying it on another machine.

, Is there somthing I need to change in the settings to get the hit count to update?,

I'll try to help when I get back tues night,, see the contact page for info on where I am
http://www.cjwsoft.com/contact/default.asp?Subject=CJWSoft+G eneral+Inquiry

, Just installed sofware everything works fine except I see no way to upload any photos.  There is no reference or link to allow an upload on any of the asp pages (I have surfed them all).  I am sure it is something simple, but I am not aware.  I am using SQL2000.,

Thanks Chris.

Your solution worked!

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one thing to note... the time period we are talking about is going to to be whatever you have the session timeout set at in the settings.

perhaps making that value lower like 10 minutes is an option for you.. and might help to deal with situation

 

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Hello Chris,

I have switched to Alentus and have the permissions set correctly and Parent paths turned on.  I cannot figure out how to connect to the database.  Should I have the database in the aspprotect/data/database folder, or in the data folder that Alentus has in my root directory?  once that is determined, how do I decide what the path to that database is?  I have tried many things, but this is what the setup page tells me to enter in the data_conn file DBQ=D:\Websites\www.mysite.com\aspprotect\data\database\ASPP rotect_access2002.mdb;Driver={Microsoft Access Driver (*.mdb)};UID=Admin;Password=temp

Thank You

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