Blog Entry: 3/25/2006 4:31:35 PM
its that server, it's way underpowered when it comes to running dynamic code and databases.. and that other app is probably stealing all the leftover odbc resources..... did you try doing the import on another machine running ASP? Thats the way to go.. I am afraid I won't be much help at the moment.. I am battling with a crashed system and a lot of lost data, that wont work the way you did it because groups are not stored like like.
groups are stored "*1*"
or "*1*,*9,*"
so if you test for them you must do so using the InStr function of vbscript
example:
If InStr(Session("Groups"),"*1*") Then
' do whatever
End If
also.. as for the session variable
it should be Session("Groups")
And in Version 6.... (its all ready to go in version 7) that session variable must be saved in the check_user_inc.asp file near where all the others are saved. If it is not there by default "I dont remember if it is or not" you have to add it like so near where all the others are saved
Session("Groups") = CmdCheckUser("Groups")
If you are wondering if it is being saved correctly you can always response.write out the Session("Groups") to see if it holds a value ,
How and where does one add countries/cities to the list so that they appear in the Drop-Down list that advertisers see when they are placing a new ad?, Thanks very much for the quick reply.
That sets my mind at ease 
I was just worried if users would see warnings in their firewall software too.
I realize that the admin would have to have to go through some errors...
And since we are throwing things in here... Definately, if you have your own server you need a Hardware Firewall and a Managed one at that. The internet can be pretty dangerous for business if you don't.
Plus, I agree Black Ice although in it's heyday a few years ago was considered great. It is not suitable for todays standards alone even for the normal user (But, it is required by the company I work with for VPN. I think it's stupid too using old technology. I have 2 more firewalls setup besides that just so that I do have some security. And, that's just for my PC)...
Thanks , I have found the alternate databases and they do not work either. I then went back and changed the database path in the asptest page to connect to the 2000 and 2002 test databases and it connected successfully to both of those databases, just as it had successfully connected to the asptest.mdb., Okay, thanks, I'm going to change the method tonight and see if it makes a difference
I'll report back
Dave , As I'd said in my previous response, I found those databases and they didn't work. All three databases in asptest do work., actually, looks like its 8.95 a month now for a pretty slick plan
http://www.alentus.com/hosting/valueplan.asp, There is nothing built in to the system but it is very doable.
However, you need to be a decent asp coder because your going to have to write some code.
Basically you would want to do a check on the screen where a user uploads to count how many pictures they have uploaded.
Then act accordinly and either let them or dont let them proceed.
On a side note the overall filesize limit of the total of all pictures a user can upload can be set when you edit a user.
, and did you response.write that session value to see if it holds anything to ensure it is being set , Is there a way to protect other virtual sites on the server that are not under the default web site considering people may have different websites running off one server? I get the following error:
Parser Error Message: Cannot use a leading .. to exit above the top directory.
Source Error:
Line 1: <%@ Register TagPrefix="aspprotect" TagName="checkaccess" Src="../../protectpage.ascx" %>
Line 2: <aspprotect:checkaccess level="4" groups="null" runat="server"></aspprotect:checkaccess>
Line 3: |
Thanks!
, That carrot doesn't really exist in the file, so I'm not sure.
I did download and place the ASPTEST file in www.drsweisberg.com/asptest and when I try to load the 2 pages it fails to load. I have another site on the same server and I uploaded the same exact set of files and the asp pages load. www.klarman.com/asptest
http://www.drsweisberg.com/asptest/server_info.asp
http://www.klarman.com/asptest/server_info.asp
This is how I set the connection:
ConnectionString = "DBQ=D:\clients\rklarman\klarman\asptest\_database\asptest.m db;Driver={Microsoft Access Driver (*.mdb)};UID=Admin;Password=temp"
ConnectionString = "DBQ=D:\clients\rklarman\drsweisberg\asptest\_database\aspte st.mdb;Driver={Microsoft Access Driver (*.mdb)};UID=Admin;Password=temp" , I am trying to import a database into my list of registered
users. When I go the import_export_manager.asp page most of the
content is missing. All that appears is the first 2 lines of text
and a box. The rest of the page is blank. I have tried this
under 5 different browsers on 3 different machines and on 2 operating
systems. I also ftp'd the original .asp file with no success. Any
clues?
, Got it. Thanks Chris!
Michelle
, ok, then I need more information.
Was the code changed ? Thats the big one. If it worked and now it doesn't something must have changed. Things just don't stop working on their own. I would try putting the original files back in there for everything but the config and dataconn files just to make sure and see and if it works with the original files. (back up your old ones 1st so you can copy them back of course)
Also, perhaps PM me the site info so I can go look as well. , thank you for such a quick response -- It sounds straight forward - so I should be all set. Thanks again., that is because passwords in the import/export files are encrypted.. if you make one of your own you need to use the rc4 function in the "config_inc.asp" to encrpyt your passwords just like the aspprotect system does (requires knowledge of vbscript and integration into your export system)
now, there is a way around this
if you want to import a file you made with clear text passwords edit "import.asp" beforehand and change
If UserArray2(5) <> "" Then CmdAddUsers.Fields("Password") = UserArray2(5)
to
If UserArray2(5) <> "" Then CmdAddUsers.Fields("Password") = RC4(UserArray2(5), PasswordEncryptionKey)
that way it should convert your clear text passwords to encrypted while it does the import
this post also addresses this but in the reverse scenario
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/code_info.asp?TID=261&PN =1&TPN=1
I hope this helps you because I really do have to leave the office like right now. Very late for a dinner meeting.
I should be back on the computer later tonight or tommoro morning , Thank you.... yes it does
Is there a limit in the number of Zones you can have in the database.
thanking you , Has this been resolved ?, I've downloaded this neat little app, but I'm having troubles understanding what I should be using. Cassinni or IIS, can you help? I've tried to look at the help, but it is very vague on what to use in each situation.
Any help is appreciated.
Cheers , ok, here is what is going on
you are password protecting an ".asp" page that requires querystring info to run correctly (example - "somepage.asp?ID=3"")
that is something I never intended anyone to do.. while it does handle and repass the querystring info along during successful login it does not re-pass that info during a failed login as you have found out
this is all by design.. the only reason the system re-passes the querystring info at all is because I wanted to make it smart for the sake of the remember me/cookie feature.. so if someone was using that and bookmarked a page deep in your site with querstring info...then when they went back to that bookmark they would get authenticated and still see the page as intended with the querystring info in tact
it was a nice feature never intended to handle any situations other than what I just described...
now...
notice the url in the browser after failing a login.. then logging in successfully.. it is missing the querystring info
that more than anything is what is going on.. browser caching can cause some confusion when dealing with this because the browser likes to return you to the page minus the querstring info... when that happens a simple browser refresh at that time may very well solve the problem and then you see the page you are supposed to see...
To avoid all of this...
One solution to this is to always start people logging in to an ".asp" page that has no querystring info. That way this won't happen. Once they are logged in you can then offer them links to the pages they need to go to. (you of course still want to password protect those pages)
Another solution is to log them into a page with no querystring info and then do a response.redirect to the page with quersytring info.. thus accomplishing the same thing but without the possibility of the issue because of a failed login.
Another solutions is to do checks in your asp page for missing querstring info.. and if it isn't there do something about it like send them somewhere else.. or display a message about there being an error... etc etc
So,basically you don't want to tell people to login into such and such page with querstring info... and providing a username and password..... You can do it but like you found out it can cause an error if they mess up logging in the 1st time. The system just was not designed to handle that. There are complex reasons for that involving security that would just take me too long to explain.
I hope this makes some sense to you.. it is very hard to try and explain ,
Chris,
I'm setting up the subscription locally so I can't test it out until I
put the site live. I have a question in how the paypal
subscription works.
1. What is telling paypal to return the info to the ipn.asp page for
processing? Is that something I have to set up in my paypal
account?
2. I'd like to use Paypal's
auto return. I assume the return page would be ipn.asp?
Would I just need to add a redirect to the login page at the end
of the appropriate txn_type if/then statement?
Thanks,
Michelle
P.S. I did finish the integration of the webwizforum with
ASPProtect. Thanks for the great headstart on that! Will be
putting everything live in a couple weeks.
, ok, so from your PM Iknow you are using SQL server with IIS5.
You say you created the SQL database using the provided scripts and that is good.
What is going on may just be a weird odbc issue that sometimes happens on IIS5 when using SQL server and I have an idea on how to remedy it.
Edit the "config_inc.asp" with notepad.
Change
If Application("SERVER_SOFTWARE") = "" Then
Application("SERVER_SOFTWARE") = Request.ServerVariables("SERVER_SOFTWARE")
End If
To
Application("SERVER_SOFTWARE") = "iis/6"
And lets see if that helps the situation.
it will change some SQL String query values in the application from "-1" to "1"
either should always work but under certain scenariois only one or the other works, FYI. There is a typo in the upgrade (6.0 to 7.0) instructions. It specifies adding a field named "passwords". Should be "password"., I made the changes like you suggested, but now the page just times out before even loading.
<%
ConnectionString = "DBQ=D:\clients\rklarman\DrWeisbergUsers.mdb;Driver={Microso ft Access Driver (*.mdb)}"
DatabaseType = "MSACCESS"
%> ,  I have purchased ASPProtect to secure a web site that I administor for a soccer league. I am having a hard time getting the code to execute. the instructions are to include this code at the top of the web page under the Language identifier. Like this I think:
<%@ LANGUAGE="VBSCRIPT" %>
<!-- Begin ASPProtect Code -->
<!-- Groups with access to this page. ( * Admins * ) -->
<% GROUPACCESS = "4" %>
<!--#INCLUDE FILE="check_user_inc.asp"-->
<!-- End ASPProtect Code -->
However, nothing happens. I am not sure if I am missing something.
FYI: the "Check_user_inc.asp" file is in the root directory of the site which is actually two levels down on the d: drive of the server.
The web page code is located below.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
<html>
<head>
<title>TeamManagers</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#006600">
<div id="Layer1" style="position:absolute; left:125px; top:109px; width:682px; height:597px; z-index:1">
<table width="655" border="1" name="teambios" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" bordercolorlight="#FFFFFF" bordercolordark="#FFFFFF" height="312">
<tr bordercolor="#006600">
<td bgcolor="#006600" width="154" height="33"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#FFFFFF">Division
1</font></b></td>
<td bgcolor="#006600" width="160" height="33"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#FFFFFF">Division
2</font></b></td>
<td bgcolor="#006600" width="148" height="33"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#FFFFFF">Division
3</font></b></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="154" height="26"> </td>
<td width="160" height="26"> </td>
<td width="148" height="26"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="154" height="26"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/BHawks/BHawks_search.htm">Black
Hawks</a></font></b></td>
<td width="160" height="26"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/Gunners/TFC_search.htm">Gunners</a ></font></b></td>
<td width="148" height="26"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/InterFC/InterFC_search.htm">Inter
FC </a></font></b></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="154" height="26"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img src="/Images/clearpixel.gif" width="1" height="1"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/DCove/DCove_search.htm">Deep
Cove Brewers</a></font></b></font></td >
<td width="160" height="29" valign="top"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/NSReds/NSReds_search.htm">North
Shore Reds</a></font></b></td>
<td width="148" height="26"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img src="/Images/clearpixel.gif" width="1" height="1"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/BFC%20Blackhawks/BFC_search.htm">LV
BFC Blackhawks</a></font></b></font>< /td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="154" valign="top" height="28"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/FatBoys/FatBoys_search.htm">Fat
Boys</a></font></b></td>
<td width="160" valign="top" height="28"> <p><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/NSIndians/NSIndians_search.htm">Squam ish
Nation United</a></font></b></p></td>
<td width="148" valign="top" height="28"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/NSYoungGuns/NSYoungGuns_search.htm">N orth
Shore Young Guns</a></font></b></font></b> </font></b></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="154" valign="top" height="29"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/LEI/LEI_search.htm">LEIFC</a>&l t;/font></b></td>
<td width="160" valign="top" height="29"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/UFK/UFK_search.htm">UFK
United</a></font></b></td>
<td width="148" valign="top" height="29"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/Saints/Saints_search.htm">Northland
Saints</a></font></b></font></b&g t;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="160" height="27" valign="top"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/Lightning/Lightning_search.htm">Light ning</a></font></b></td>
<td width="160" height="27" valign="top"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/holding/UFK/UFK_search.htm">
</a><a href="/TeamManagers/Warriors/Warriors_search.htm">Warrior s</a></font></b></td>
<td width="148" height="29" valign="top"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/SoccerCityFC/SoccerCityFC_search.htm"> ;Soccer
City FC</a></font></b> </font></b></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="154" valign="top" height="27"> <p><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/QCHawks/QCHawks_search.htm">Q.C.
Hawks</a></font></b></p></td>
<td width="160" valign="top" height="27"> </td>
<td width="148" valign="top" height="27"> <p><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/holding/Cougars/Cougars_search.htm">
</a></font></b></p></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="154" valign="top" height="32"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/OdlumBrownFC/OdlumBrownFC_search.htm"> ;Odlum
Brown </a></font></b></td>
<td width="160" valign="top" height="32"> </td>
<td width="148" valign="top" height="32"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font></b></font></b> ;</td>
</tr>
<tr valign="top">
<td width="154" height="27"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/WestwardFC/WestwardFC_search.htm">Wes tward
Utd F.C.</a></font></b></td>
<td width="160" height="27"> </td>
<td width="148" height="27"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font></b></td>
</tr>
</table>
<table width="655" border="1" name="teambios" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" bordercolorlight="#FFFFFF" bordercolordark="#FFFFFF" height="289" bordercolor="#000000">
<tr bordercolor="#006600">
<td bgcolor="#006600" height="29" colspan="2"> <p><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#FFFFFF">Over
30's Division A</font></b></p></td>
<td bgcolor="#006600" width="349" height="29" colspan="2"> <p><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#FFFFFF">Over
30's Division B</font></b></p></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="15" colspan="2"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img src="/Images/clearpixel.gif" width="1" height="1"></font></td>
<td width="349" height="15" colspan="2"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img src="/Images/clearpixel.gif" width="1" height="1"></font></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top" colspan="2" height="31"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/BBear/BBear_search.htm">Villa
Roma FC</a></font></b></td>
<td width="349" valign="top" colspan="2" height="31"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/Comrades/Comrades_search.htm">Comrade s</a></font></b></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top" colspan="2" height="30"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/JESpurs/JESpurs_search.htm">Maplewood
Spurs</a></font></b></td>
<td width="349" valign="top" colspan="2" height="31"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/NS%20Chiefs/NSChiefs_search.htm">NS
Chiefs </a></font></b></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="29" valign="top" colspan="2"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/NSRangers/NSRangers_search.htm">N.S.
Rangers</a></font></b></td>
<td width="349" valign="top" colspan="2" height="30"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/SVikings/SVikings_search.htm">Screami ng
Vikings </a></font></b></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="29" valign="top" colspan="2"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/RGullStrikers/RGullStrikers_search.htm"& gt;Rusty
Gull Strikers</a></font></b></td>
<td width="349" height="29" valign="top" colspan="2"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/Spareboy/Spareboy_search.htm">Sparebo y</a></font></b></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="2" valign="top" height="32"> <p><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/Shysters/Shysters_search.htm">Shyster s</a></font></b></p></td>
<td colspan="2" valign="top" height="32" width="349"> <p><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/Titans/Titans_search.htm">Titans</ a></font></b></p></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top" colspan="2" height="30"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/Wanderers/Wanderers_search.htm">Wande rers</a></font></b></td>
<td width="349" valign="top" colspan="2" height="30"><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="/TeamManagers/VeniceFC/VeniceFC_search.htm">Venice
F.C.</a></font></b></td>
</tr>
<tr valign="top">
<td height="30" colspan="2"> </td>
<td width="349" height="30" colspan="2"> </td>
</tr>
</table>
<h1>Suspended Player Information</h1>
<table width="650" border="0" height="71">
<tr>
<td width="157" height="45"> </td>
<td width="148" height="45"> </td>
<td width="171" height="45"> </td>
<td width="157" height="45"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
<td width="148" height="30"> </td>
<td width="171" height="30"> </td>
<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
</tr>
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<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
<td width="148" height="30"> </td>
<td width="171" height="30"> </td>
<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
</tr>
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<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
<td width="148" height="30"> </td>
<td width="171" height="30"> </td>
<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
<td width="148" height="30"> </td>
<td width="171" height="30"> </td>
<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
<td width="148" height="30"> </td>
<td width="171" height="30"> </td>
<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
<td width="148" height="30"> </td>
<td width="171" height="30"> </td>
<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
</tr>
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<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
<td width="148" height="30"> </td>
<td width="171" height="30"> </td>
<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
<td width="148" height="30"> </td>
<td width="171" height="30"> </td>
<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
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<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
<td width="148" height="30"> </td>
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<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
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<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
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<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
<td width="148" height="30"> </td>
<td width="171" height="30"> </td>
<td width="157" height="30"> </td>
</tr>
</table>
<p> </p>
</div>
<p><img src="/Images/ateammanag.png" width="235" height="46"><img src="/Images/MILLERS5.gif" width="410" height="53"></p>
<p><img src="/Images/Millersmenu5.gif" width="90" height="25">
<p>
<p><a href="/index.html"><img src="/Images/buttonhome.gif" width="93" height="20" border="0"></a></p>
<p><a href="/newLeagueInfo.html"><img src="/Images/button1.gif" width="93" height="29" border="0"></a></p>
<p><a href="/Schedule/SchedulesMain.asp"><img src="/Images/button2.gif" width="93" height="20" border="0"></a></p>
<p><a href="/newFields.html"><img src="/Images/button5.gif" width="93" height="29" border="0"></a></p>
<p><a href="/newTeamContacts.html"><img src="/Images/button6.gif" width="93" height="29" border="0"></a></p>
<p><a href="/newTeamInfo.html"><img src="/Images/button7.gif" width="93" height="29" border="0"></a></p>
<p><a href="/TeamRosters/newTeamRoster.html"><img src="/Images/teamrosterbtn.png" width="93" height="29" border="0"></a></p>
<p><a href="/newStandings.html"><img src="/Images/button3.gif" width="93" height="20" border="0"></a></p>
<p><a href="/Stats/stats_input.asp"><img src="/Images/playerstatbutton.png" width="93" height="29" border="0"></a></p>
<p><a href="/newTeammangers.html"><img src="/Images/Managerbutton.png" width="93" height="29" border="0"></a></p>
<p><a href="/newAdministrators.html"><img src="/Images/adminbutton.png" width="93" height="29" border="0"></a></p>
<p><a href="/newRefs.html"><img src="/Images/refereebutton.png" width="93" height="29" border="0"></a></p>
<p><a href="/newLinks.html"><img src="/Images/soccerlinks.gif" width="86" height="25" border="0"></a></p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
</body>
</html>
, Your suggestion worked - thanks - , I assumed when it said "expected path" that it understand that was the default and unless I wanted it in a different directory I could leave that blank. I'm checking on it now., After I approve someone's username and password, then go to send them the default e mail telling them of the approval, the e mail never goes through. The e mailing used to work well for many months, but it stopped working. Any thoughts?
Spider , This post unfortutely needs to be here because this application has been the biggest pain in the neck for me you could possibly imagine. This is not because of problems with the application, but because of people's general lack of knowlegde regarding ASP.NET. This post totally voices my stance on what sort of knowledge you need to have and also the fact that I am not going to support anything but general installation on a correctly and professionaly set up live server.
ASPProtect.NET is a great application but using ASP.NET requires a lot more basic knowledge than using classic ASP and there are a lot of basic low level ASP.NET things that need to be set up correctly for an application like ASPProtect.NET to run. These are things I do not cover because you should know the ASP.NET basics when using an application as complex as this. It's just that I don't have time to nor should I have to teach people the basics of ASP.NET. I don't charge nearly enough for ASPProtect.NET to offer that kind of support.
So, I will say it one more time. ASPProtect.NET is targeted towards experienced Visual Studio.NET developers that know how to work with Code Behind VB.NET and are familiar with basic ASP concepts such as IIS application settings, the .NET framework, the aspnet_client folder, and the basics of the web.config file. If you are using ASP.NET for whatever reason you need to know about these things. The best way is to get some good books and do set up ASP.NET on a local development machine so you can start learning.
If you are one of the ASP.NET challenged let me say this as well.
Stick with Classic ASP. ASP.NET is a step in the wrong direction for the average user which I like to refer to as "Joe Coder". Classic ASP is very powerful and easy to pick up. ASP.NET is not easy to pick up and never will be for a lot of people. In my opinion it’s actually the wrong technology to use for anyone other than big corporations who need extreme scalability in their applications or for the hobbyist or object oriented programmer who just wants to use the latest and greatest. Ask yourself if you really want to deal with compiling Code Behind code each time you make changes to your web site as opposed to just editing some files in notepad real quick like you can do with classic ASP ? Do you have the money to purchase and use Visual Studio.NET or are you going to struggle with compiling all your ASP.NET pages using a command line compiler and a batch file ? Yes, you can build ASP.NET code that isn't code behind but why even bother if that is the case because your missing the point of ASP.NET if you do that and missing out on a lot of powerful new features and concepts.
When I do custom projects for bigger clients I usually end up using ASP.NET because they want to go that way and understand the time and money involved. When I do any of my own projects I use Classic ASP because the truth is you can still make some rockin busy scalable web sites with Classic ASP just like you can still make great web sites with CGI, PP, Cold Fusion.. etc etc. Look around the web because a lot of the biggest sites out there still use those scripting technologies and their stuff runs very well. ASP.NET is a lot of hype and although some things about it are plain awesome it is an environment best suited for real object oriented programmers, not the weekend code warriors.
The other thing to keep in mind about classic ASP is the shear abundance of applications and scripts available for it. ASP.NET can be expensive for that reason alone as there still is a shortage of good time tested applications out there and what is out there is always priced a lot higher.
In addition to that half of the ASP.NET applications out there are just half baked poorly converted versions of their Classic ASP counterparts. Is that the kind of thing you want to sink twice the money into or would you rather have something that runs well and has been tweaked year after year into a rock solid product?
To make things worse a lot of the hosting companies out there offering ASP.NET hosting are severely limiting the basic abilities of ASP.NET because of various security concerns. This means if you go with a Host that does that 75% of the asp.net stuff out there won't run on the hosted server. Isn't that wonderful ?
Now, Let's make things even worse. So far every time Microsoft has released a new version of ASP.NET a lot of things from the previous version have stopped working and needed to be modified to work correctly. Is that really something you will have the time, resources, and energy to deal with.
You may ask "but is classic ASP going to be around 5 years from now?" Though you never really know until the new version of windows server ships I say "Hell Yes" it will be. According to my sources at Port80 Software who work very closely with the folks at Microsoft (as well as many other sources out there) it will almost certainly be in Longhorn which is the next version of Windows Server. Longhorn probably won't come out until 2007 and will be popular for 3-4 years after that. The version of windows server after that will most likely support Classic ASP as well and if it doesn't I am sure there will be a way to make ASP run on it. If you really look around a lot of hosting companies are still running Windows Server 2000 which is 5 years old at the moment. The bottom line is Classic ASP helped put Microsoft web technologies on the map. Microsoft can not simply drop it because if they do they give up a dominate market share to the scripting competition being PHP, CGI, Cold Fusion.. etc etc PHP for instance a huge installed base on many platforms which are essentially free. ASP.NET can not compete with that in any way and not supporting Classic ASP would put microsoft in a bad position.
Take it from me. If you are a weekend code warrior/script kiddie. You'll be a lot happier sticking with classic ASP. You will also have save a lot of money and you can still have great web sites. There are tons of great applications out there in ASP and ASP still is and always will be the easiest scripting language to work with and learn. Better yet look around on sites like www.4guysfromrolla.com and see if you actually understand any of the latest articles. If it looks like Greek to you that is yet another sign that you should stick to classic ASP.
Personally, I will be focusing just as much time and effort on ASP.NET as I will on Classic ASP in the years to come for a few reasons.
- Because I sell software I obviously need to convert/re-write most of my appIications to work with ASP.NET. My living may eventually depend on it.
- Because I love using the latest technologies I want to continue to develop using ASP.NET.
- Because I do many custom projects for various clients using ASP.NET is a must.
- Because in some cases using ASP.NET over classic ASP makes total sense.
Just don't fall for the HYPE folks. I am one of the few established developers out there that has a set of Balls and is willing to put the truth out there and see past the bullsh*t. If you go ASP.NET do it because you seriosuly think you need the power and scalabilty and money and time is not an issue or because you are a hobbiest and object oriented programmer who likes working with and has time to work with the latest and greatest web scripting technolgies out there. I truly believe that so far ASP.NET is as much a success as it is a failure. I am sure some of you out there know what I mean by that.
All this being said you should also realize that ASPProtect.NET is a little different than your average ASP.NET application because it uses a lot of advanced ASP.NET techniques and you essentially use it to password protect your existing scripts meaning you need to integrate your stuff with our stuff in a sense. If you just go buy some random ASP.NET application like a classifieds system or storefront it is probably just going to run on it's own an therefore will be a lot easier to set up and deal with.
Here are some links you folks should read as well.
http://rtfm.atrax.co.uk/infinitemonkeys/articles/asp/905.asp
http://www.itnewsgroups.net/group/microsoft.public.inetserve r.asp.general/topic2074.aspx
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;%5Bln%5D;L ifeWin
Chris Willians
http://www.cjwsoft.com/about.asp , thanks!, I am converting the email over from CDONTS to CDO so it will run on my host 2003 server.
What files should I be concerned with? Under gallery_admin there is an email_user.asp and under the main gallery folder thier is an email friend. Is there an other email routines I should be concerned with?
Thank You for your Assistance.
Jeromy , And I'm the one who finds those rarities! I'm not surprised.
Oh well...this should be interesting trying to get an 80 year old man to change his password.
Thanks for your quick responses Chris. This is still an awesome membership system!
Mick , I need more details... telling me you cant get it to work doesn't give me much to go on , New Version 8.1 Released
Whats new..
http://www.aspbanner.com/v8_notes.asp
Upgrade Instructions...
Upgrade at your own risk. Though we try new versions are not always perfect due to minor bugs we may miss.
Back up your old setup so you can revert back if necessary..!!!
Save your data connection string info in a text file so you have it.
You can get that by viewing the system info page in the admin area.
Carefully copy all the ".asp" files from the new version to the old.
Your going to want all the .asp files in the aspbanner folder.
Your going to want all the .asp files in the aspbanner/scripts folder
Copy the aspbanner/images folder because there are some new images
Be sure to also copy the "data/config" folder files.folders as well as a lot of that is new including the actual config file. If you dont get the new config file copied in there you will have problems later on with some of the new features.
Be sure to create a new folder in the "data" folder called "tempstats"
Make sure it has proper permissions if you plan on using the delayed stats feature as the stats gets temporarily stored there.
Go back to the area where you originally setup the data connection and do that again...
From the web browser run the following URL
http://yoursite/data/config/aspbanner_unlimited.asp
Replace "yoursite" with the proper url info relevant to your web site location.
When run via the web server that page will ask for a password. By default it is "temp". You should change it later on for security reasons. That page tells you how.
Now... moving on..
There were no changes to the database except for SQL Server users so you can use your existing database.
SQL Server users that want to use the new stored procedures feature (it's optional) will need to update their SQL database with the stored procedures.
Scripts to do that are provided.
ALSO: I have been running this new version using SQL Server Stored Procedure mode for a 1 week on a special banner server that serves banners to many of my own sites. I have also been using the new Delayed Stats feature.
All I can say is it is running like a champ and the SQL server is using less memory than it ever did before.
cwilliams38291.7372800926, Hi Chris,
When I run the physical map test this is what I get:
The Physical path to this virtual website is: \\NAWINFS04\home\users\web\b2623\rh.vickery2004
Will that work correctly without a drive letter specified?
Thanks 
Rhona
, 1st: try it with a normal dsn-less connection like we show in the example.. dont use that OLEDB.4.0 connection string.. connecting like that can cause a lot of problems and is not as great as everyone thinks it is and it can sometimes be difficult to get it working when the database has a password set on it
For the sake of troubleshooting just connect like so: (fixing the path of course)
ConnectionString = "DBQ=C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\aspprotect\data\database\ASPProtect_ access2002.mdb;Driver={Microsoft Access Driver (*.mdb)};UID=Admin;Password=temp"
ASPProtect will generate the actual connection string you should use when you run this page
http://www.mysite.com/data/setup_info.asp
Replacing the part in blue with your website info.
2nd: any IIS server setup to have the access database over the network path like that has a poor setup... and that can cause all sorts of problems as well, access is not designed to run over the network like that.. for more on that read this thread - Start 5 posts down
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/code_info.asp?TID=479&KW =OLEDB%2E4%2E0
3rd: If the app does not run using the connection string like I say to use then the problem is 100% on their end and is either related to permissions or the fact they are keeping the access database on a network path which is BAD BAD BAD... no quality host that knew what they are doing would set it up that way.. ultimately you don't want to host asp with a place that has a setup like that
4th: If you want to try some other stuff out we have a free guestbook, asptest, and a free version of aspbanner you can try out as well... www.cjwsoft.com
5th: If you need a quality asp host that knows what they are doing and offers great asp support www.alentus.com is the place
6th: Your right, it is not the code, its the data connection , That worked...but when I tried importing the test user, the password was imported in an add formated...like it was encrypted, and I can't log in using the User ID that I imported., I have sent an registration email (as test) to both a yahoo account and also my own email server and in both cases I get the same issue, all else is working great. I am sure its somthing simple, perhaps I am over looking somthing else. the site url is www.rochestertek.us/asp/users/register.asp if this helps
Again thanks. , Is this the full version 7.
Did you make any changes to the code ?
Is the User_ID field still an autonumber field in the Access database ?
I do not see how this could happen unless somehow the autonumber field setting for User_ID was changed in the database? ,
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