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It seems that if a user attempts to access a page that is not in their access level or they do not have the group permission they are redirected to the login page.  Re entering their ID generates an eror and they cannot go back to the pages they are alowed to access.  Is there a way for them to simply be blocked and return to the previous page or to a defined page so they can continue using the site?

thankyou 

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Ok, I started the database tables from scratch. I did everything using sql enterprise manager and query analizer..

Same thing happens... certain passwords just do not work.

So I did a lot of testing and I have come to the conclusion that this has something to do with the regional settings of that SQL server.

Here is an example.. see the screenshot below.

Username "admin" password "petepetepete"

The top query done in Enterprise Manager is valid and shows the user.

The bottom query is also valid but it does not show the user.

And that is exactly what is happening from the ASP codes point of view.



Now, this means that even though that encrypted password is getting saved to the databse correctly this particular SQL server just cant deal with it from a QUERY.

It works fine on two different SQL servers that I have. It's just got to be something regional related like unicode characters not being dealt with correctly or something odd like that.

I tried changing the collation data for the "Password" field type on that SQL server and it looks right. I don't know what else to do but it is something about that SQL server. There may be a way to change the regional setting through the connection string but I cant find any articles on that right now.

One solution I have for you to get this working there is to eliminate the encryption factor then I dont think you will have these issues.

It's either that or find another SQL server with US type settings or use MSAccess. ASPProtect runs nearly as fast on Access as long as you do not have over 10,000 users or whatever. The system hardly ever accesses the database so it performance under MSAccess is always good.

Let me know what you want to do. I can shows you how to eliminate the encrypytion factor if you want to try that. I think if I make you a custom version of the RC4 function you can just replace that and then the system will use plain passwords.

Your call..

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I had both ASP Listings & Classified on the same website.  The categories seem to be getting mixed up. I removed ASP Classified but classfieds categories is still appearing in the student of ASP Listing.

How do I fix this?

Thanks

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ok,

when you say "we have set up to use the Subscription services exclusively for all new members "

I am sorry to have to ask this again but what does that mean exactly ?

how was that accomplished ?

The reason I say this is because when a subscription is created by a user through the normal channels.. meaning they went to the paypal subscription directory and either started a new account or found their old one to start a subscription with.. either way the PayPal Subscripber ID that paypal assigns is added to the database for that user and the expiration date is set to null.

Now, that being said the function that sends expiration emails to users will NEVER send an expiration to a user that has info in their PayPal Subscriber Field in the database. I just double checked that.

So that is where I am confused ? How did all these users get set up to use subscriptions and not have the PayPal Subscriber ID field popluated in the database ?

Seems to me the only way this could happen is if you set some stuff up manually and the PayPal Subscriber ID for each user never got put in the database. That and the expiration date didnt get set to null.

Again, I am sorry to keep asking this but it just seems to me that something else must be going on that I am not clear on regarding how you upgraded these people to use subscriptions.

In the end I think the answer may be to manually make sure each old user now using subscriptions has their PayPal Subscription ID set in the database as well as their expiration date from before set to null.

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UPDATE:  read whole thread..
Version has been delayed





These are my personal notes on the new version of ASP Photo Gallery that should be out sometime in May/June 2004. Please ingore any typos.

This version may be more expensive than the current pro version as this is a major re-write and there will be a ton of new features.

Regardless, special pricing will be offerered to existing users.

If you see any features not listed that you think would be nice please post them here. We will of course consider them.

 






ASP Photo Gallery Version 4

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Finished Improvements:

new setup page makes setting up the data connection easier than ever
it attempts to determine the possible data paths and makes suggestions for what to try
when you finally get the data connection working it gives you a link to the admin area of the application
so you can get started using the application

all database table names can be specified in the config_inc.asp file for advanced users that they may need
to change the table names in the database.. helpful for sql installation where one sql database must be
shared by many applications

new data folder is the only folder that needs permissions set
before multiple folders needed permissions
now everything can be put in this folder... database,logfiles,configuration files,picture upload folders...
eventually all cjwsoft applications will do this allowing multiple cjwsoft applications to use that same folder
therefore making it easier than ever to setup more applications without asking your host to set more permissions

new text based config file makes it easier to add new options to the program without making changes to
the database structure... therefore the need for the configuration table in the database has been eliminated
this also reduces system resources needed to load the config data for each page because it eliminates calls to the
database for config data

added voice effects for data connection page, intro users page, and settings page

made it so ratings color was an option (red or blue)

fixed minor bug that wasn't showing fixed category heights when that was selected and am image wasn't originally sized that way during initial upload

changed logfiles dates so they always show up in the proper order 09 vs 9

added config option to change bit query value to 1 or -1
default it to 1.... this is a technical thing

added the extra options currently in the config file to the settings page so people do not have to manually edit that
file any longer...

added new persits email option and authentication options to the settings page

added new CDOSYS emailing option

added support for dundas emailer

added support for ASPSMARTMAIL

fixed word filter so if it is empty it doesn't mess up
also make editing it part of the main settings

made email functions include file and edited all page that email to use it

added css/style sheet support and removed a lot of the old font tags

seperated the settings page into sections because it was too big and confusing

added ability for text watermarking when using the ASPImage component

made the picture upload error message no longer mention browsers that do not support picture uploading
as that is confusing people... and the problem is never that anymore

Made the ASPImage test page delete the bar graph before creating it so if it is already there they will
not think it is working

added crystal ball feature to admin users screen... shows additional user info when you hold the mouse over it

Made search function highlight search word in results.
Made the search function search the image description text files as well

Eliminated the guestbook directory as there was no need for the guestbook to be in it's own directory. This also simplified the menu.asp file as the guestbook section could be removed.

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Possible Improvements:

eventually make new and much better directions/documentation... html based for multiple reasons

Eliminate the need for parent paths to be enabled on the web server.
(THIS MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE)
Many hosting companies disabled parent paths and will not enable them for their users.
On Windows 2003 Server Parent Paths are disabled by default.

make it so users ability to upload pics can be optionally disabled

possibly make some of the special functions in the extras folder built in to the admin area

Make the category picture uploader smarter because of the jpg gif issue when reuploading cat icons
A jpg loaded over a gif.. doesn't delete the old gif graphic and vice versa

Reduce number of ".asp" pages in general.

Use more functions for redundant tasks.

Optimize all instances of the old filefound function which is using more resources than are necessary

option.explicit the entire application and get all the variables dimmed once and for all

possibly incorporate the new category system I am working on which allows for unlimited categories and levels
also simplifies the heck out of the pages that call the categories

possibly add some cool image manipulation functions such as rotation for the various image components supported

possibly add the ability to move pictures around in an album. and maybe between albums
I must also remember to move the ratings and desc as well for that image.

possibly add the ability to make individual pictures require approval

possibly add the streaming image ability (asp page called from image tag) I came up with as an option for
people that can use it. this will better secure images in password protected albums and also possibly make
it so images can only be viewed from certain urls.. and maybe make an interface for a list of allowed urls

improve the .net support to also resize the larger images.. currently it does not

possibly add a feature to store 3 versions of images uploaded
thumbnail, medium res, and high res/original
this will appeal to professionals or people that may want to sell prints
storing a large version will be optional

possible support for multimedia content other than gif and jpg images

fix... url to link to..   problem on control pics page when both a jpg and a gif are present... which also relates to a another slight
bug that needs to be taken care of

make interface in admin to listen to installed midi files
and also to upload / delete them

possibly make per album guestbook... or call it something else like disussion or comments

add option to store the images orginal name in the images description area during upload
may be helpful to people that name their images in a somewhat descriptive way

change approval settings so they work on a per user basis
eliminate access levels from edit user screen and get rid of the level 4 stuff mentioned
possibly add a per user option for individual pic approval as well if I get that feature implemented

add support for the ibulc bulk upload client that I recently discovered
it is very cool

cwilliams38325.8264583333, I think you can either change some things in your PayPal account settings regarding your default currency..

or add a hidden variable to the PayPal form code ASPProtect uses like this guy did.
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/code_info.asp?TID=237&KW =paypal

The hidden form variable code would go next to all the other hidden variables in no particlar order.. just look through the paypal code in notepad till you find a bunch of those hidden form variables lines in a row. , ok, that is done and seems to be working..

I edited the RC4 function in the "config_inc.asp" file like I mentioned

so the function now looks like this which just acts as a passthrough and really does nothing

 Function RC4(ByRef pStrMessage, ByRef pCookieEncryptionKey)
      RC4 = pStrMessage
 End Function


so it is all set, go try things out and lets see if anything else weird comes up

Username "admin"
Password "abcdefghij" , You do not say something like that in a support forum for a legitimate software product. I don't think piracy is funny in the least bit. It is something I deal with every day with my own software. If you want to joke about it please do it someplace else.  If you are downloading things via p2p do not talk about here. I don't want to know about it period., One of my users is looking to do mass updates (multiple records). He wants to be able to update the "Expiration Date" for a group of users who work for the same company. ,

all I can say is try other things...  like

mail.yoursite.com

or

smtp.yoursite.com

etc etc etc

replacing yoursite with the name of your domain of course


the settings for sending email via ASP are no different then the settings you would use in outlook or something... except sometimes on the server level localhost works as the email server because they set it up to allow that

and of course those 3rd party emailing components need to actually be installed on the server

, does emailing work at the simplest level.. ??

meaning does a user get an email when you send an email from the admin users screen ?

if emails are not sending it could very well be the setting you have chosen for emails in the settings.

the best thing to do is keep trying to send an email there and try different emails settings until you get something that works... even when I do installs for people I often have to try a lot of various things before I get emails to send.. like picking different components and trying different things for the email server address because what they tell me is often wrong

also, sometimes emails get sent but depending on where they go they may get deleted as spam.. aol, hotmail, msn, and yahoo are famous for that , FILE includes can not use virtual pathing info

http://www.powerasp.com/content/code-snippets/includes.asp

if you want to do it like that you have to use a VIRTUAL include,

Humm.. that should have worked fine

why are you getting a "OLE DB" error I wonder ?

I need more information. 

Database being used and version ?
Server OS Version?
Connection String being used ?

etc etc

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I have noticed that during the file import, that some of the pictures get messed up.  I can import aroun 150 pictures into different albums, say 3 albums with 50 each.

I have noticed however that some of the get messed up.  What is happening is...the thumbnail will be correct, but after you click it the picture that shows up is one form a different album.

Any cure for this?

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the reason being is because when I do installs I do not touch any of your existing content. I only install the base application and make sure everything in it working correctly and also that the example protected pages are working. I do not integrate it with your existing site or edit any of your existing web content. That is up to you

sorry about that, but it would be way too time consuming and editing people's existing pages is a good way to cause a lot of headaches for me and the customer if something goes wrong. Not only that but everyone uses the system differently and it wouldnt make sense for me to be the one doing that based on access levels, groups.. etc etc  which will all be custom to how you want things set up.

more on installation policies here.
http://www.cjwsoft.com/installation_service.asp

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No rush, I have it out on the internet, but have not gone live with the site yet.

Thanks for responding,

Enjoy your well deserved break

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I just told you a lot of different things to try... and I doubt you have tried them in the time since I mentioned them

, actually, looks like its 8.95 a month now for a pretty slick plan
http://www.alentus.com/hosting/valueplan.asp, ok, that is what you are suppose to do... not having that path info set can cause all sorts of trouble.,

OK.  If no return page is set, do they end up on a PayPal confirmation page and have to navigate back to my site by going Back or typing the web address?

Nick

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Our webhost set the permissions, but the error is still there, so that is obviously not the problem.  We now have both our webhost and our asp support technician trying to figure out the problem and everyone is stumped.  Can you please provide us with the following information to help us out:

1) what is the name of the file that sets the connection string?

2) what is the name of the file, if it is different from above, that sets the password of the database?

thanks

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ok, here is what is going on

you are password protecting an ".asp" page that requires querystring info to run correctly   (example - "somepage.asp?ID=3"")

that is something I never intended anyone to do.. while it does handle and repass the querystring info along during successful login it does not re-pass that info during a failed login as you have found out

this is all by design.. the only reason the system re-passes the querystring info at all is because I wanted to make it smart for the sake of the remember me/cookie feature.. so if someone was using that and bookmarked a page deep in your site with querstring info...then when they went back to that bookmark they would get authenticated and still see the page as intended with the querystring info in tact

it was a nice feature never intended to handle any situations other than what I just described...

now...
notice the url in the browser after failing a login.. then logging in successfully.. it is missing the querystring info

that more than anything is what is going on..  browser caching can cause some confusion when dealing with this because the browser likes to return you to the page minus the querstring info... when that happens a simple browser refresh at that time may very well solve the problem and then you see the page you are supposed to see...

To avoid all of this...

One solution to this is to always start people logging in to an ".asp" page that has no querystring info. That way this won't happen. Once they are logged in you can then offer them links to the pages they need to go to. (you of course still want to password protect those pages)

Another solution is to log them into a page with no querystring info and then do a response.redirect to the page with quersytring info.. thus accomplishing the same thing but without the possibility of the issue because of a failed login.

Another solutions is to do checks in your asp page for missing querstring info.. and if it isn't there do something about it like send them somewhere else.. or display a message about there being an error... etc etc

So,basically you don't want to tell people to login into such and such page with querstring info... and providing a username and password..... You can do it but like you found out it can cause an error if they mess up logging in the 1st time. The system just was not designed to handle that. There are complex reasons for that involving security that would just take me too long to explain.

I hope this makes some sense to you.. it is very hard to try and explain

, Well, you cant have a login box on the home page when using ASPProtect.NET.. there is no way to make that work. I tried all day to come up with something and it is not going to happen. I suggest you make a login button and link it directly to the protected page you want them to start on. The redirect or link them whereever from there. Either that or write your own forms based authentication solution that works exactly the way you want it to or edit the code accordingly since you have the source.  It is not a feature we advertise for the product regardless. It works the way it works. ,

sure, there are reasons AOL would block the email.. it might think it is spam or it might not like the fact that fact that a cdonts generated email has no MX records because it can not..

for more on MX records read my CDOSYS article
http://www.powerasp.com/content/new/sending_email_cdosys.asp


as far as the emails not being sent because notifications are off. I was not aware of that and will try to look into it.. Version 6 is no longer worked on but if I can find the time I will check that out

 

, Your customer should set up a special page that you send banner clicks to. That page is the page that should record the ip and whatever other info needed.

I suppose you could make a page on your end that records that info and finally redirects them to the intended url as well.

All using simple asp. It's really not that dificult to do, but it is a loit easier if you do it this way and keep it seperate from the banner system.


Here is some interesting information not totally related to answering your question.

The banner system does not track IPs on individual clicks because if it did.. 100 clicks on a paricular banner in one day would result in 100 rows in the stats database instead of just 1 row. That may not seem like a lot, but imagine 30 banners all doing the same thing mulipled by 30 days. Your talking 90000 rows in the database instead of 900. It all comes down to what ASPBanner was designed for which is performance and low resource use.

Some banner systems out there even keep track of individual IP's per banner display. Try to imagine how much that effects performance and how much extra space is used in the database for stats. It's crazy and also the reason that the more little features a banner system offers the slower and slower it begins to run.

I am sure I lose sales all the time because I offer less features, but the truth is I know those features will eventually defeat the purpose of why I created this banner system in the 1st place and that i just not something I want to do.

The banner systems with every little feature are just not well suited to very busy sites no matter how well they are designed.cwilliams38324.8386689815, look in the "check_user_inc.asp" file

try editing this part by hard coding the body info you want to use

 Response.Write("<BODY" & Application("BodyTagInfo") & ">")


I would also suggest reviewing the generated source code in the web browser and examining the html to figure out exactly where the body tag info you dont want is coming from
,

Ok, if the link to the import/export screen does not show up its probably because you never put the import/export path in the admin settings?

go check that for me.

cause running that page without a path for the files could cause a timeout.. thats why the link doesn't show if the path is not entered (so people won't run it)

it looks sorta like this (there will be a field to fill in which wont show here)
Settings below specify the physical directory path of the export directory. This is used by the system when using the import/export feature. The export directory needs modify permissions for the anonymous webserver account.
ExportDirectory


the path must be valid for your file structure and it must have correct permissions (when creating files) ,

I have been using ASPBanner for a while and am very pleased with it. Congratulations on a good product.

Only one feature is missing that would really help me and this is being able to display banners dependent on some condition (/aspbanner/aspbanner_inc.asp?BannerZone=6&condition=xxx ).

I think this would be a good idea as it would allow users to present adverts based on different criteria; for example; specific country/region related ads, ads based on time of day, ads based on user preferences, etc.

To achieve this I was thinking of adding a field to the database so that I can enter a set of comma delimited conditions for which the banner can be displayed.

I have looked through some of the asp code with the intention of seeing how easy it would be to implement the functionality. Not knowing the code however, I think that modifying it myself would be risky as I may inadvertently change things, which would have a negative effect.

Would adding this type of functionality in ASPBanner be of interest to you. If not, can you let me have your opinion as to whether this would be relatively simple change for me to do myself or would it be too risky and I should give up the idea. Any guidance or feedback would be appreciated.

 

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If you are using an ACCESS Database try to avoid using a system DSN. They are much slower because they go through ODBC which then uses the Jet Drivers to access the database. They also have to do a registry lookup.

ttp://www.4guysfromrolla.com/webtech/070399-1.shtml

http://www.powerasp.com/content/database/dsn_vs_dnsless.asp



It's funny because in the 4guys article they ask the question..

"Hmmmm... so who was right, Microsoft or Wrox?"

I'll tell you who was right and who said it 1st.  It was me and I said it on my old powerasp.com site before anyone else ever did.

I found it out on my own by experimenting when I was the Systems Analyst for an large ISP. We we had web servers that were not running well. I didn't read about this solution anywhere because no one was talking about it at the time. Microsoft said use System DSN's so everyone just took their word for it.

I took a lot of heat for saying that back in the day but over time everyone started saying it.

, If you makes you feel any better the photo gallery app runs awesome off an access database. Mostly because all of the picture work is done in the filesystem, not the database. The load on the database is relatively low even with a lot of users.,

I made the changes like you suggested, but now the page just times out before even loading. 

<%
ConnectionString = "DBQ=D:\clients\rklarman\DrWeisbergUsers.mdb;Driver={Microso ft Access Driver (*.mdb)}"
DatabaseType = "MSACCESS"
%>

,

It worked after bout 15 minutes.  I receive a response of *3*

However, when I log in as a user who is only a mamber of group1 I still get a response of *3*

, When a logged in user with specific group rights tries to look at a page that has different group membership requirements the Login screen comes up giving them an opportunity to login with different rights to view the page.  If you log in again with your current user name the same login screen returns with the added words something to the effect of "Access Denied, you dont have group rights to this page...".

The only way to get back to the previous page is to hit the back button on the browser (there is not a back button on the denied page). 

I would really rather not even present the "login again" screen to a user but just have a custom page that says "access denied" of my own design with a back button on it.  Is this an option provided for in ASPProtect currently?  I did not see it in the admin section settings tab.  Is there a separate "login again" asp file that is being used for this group access deny message that I could alter, or does it always have to be the login asp file?
Or would this require me modifying the check_user_inc.asp file around line 356 to change this behavior (I don't want to screw up any other stuff though...).

Thanks!!

Oh, PS.  just a quick check...it looks like if a user is an "admin" he automatically gets to see all group pages regardless of which set of group numbers are assigned in his user account...is that right?





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This is a great article from my old powerasp.com site.
Connections And Server Database Permissions

 

cwilliams38084.7458217593,

The redirection feature isn't working as I exected.

If I clear a user's redirection_URL, they can navigate to any protected page on my website as expected.

However, if I set the user's redirection_URL to a protected page, they cannot login. More specifically, their browser just keeps displaying the login form while the browser's progress bar just increments ad infinitum.

If I set the user's redirection_URL to a NON-protected page, the user is directed to that non-protected page, but if they then try to navigate to a protected page, they are redirected back to the redirection_URL.

Is this the way the redirection feature is supposed to work?

My application requires that a user is directed to a protected page and from there, they can navigate to any page that they are allowed to go to.

What can I do?

,

Hi-

Thanks for the quick response to my previous posts.

This is my issue:

I have read over all the docs and installation instructions and can't find a way to do this:

my default page in my root dir will be a log in page which will take the user once his level is validated to a "home page". Is there a page in your examples that will perform the function of this log in page? or should I rename check_user_inc.asp as the default and change it's html output to make it look like my log in page?

I also looked within the code for check_user_inc.asp and did not see where to specify where the user will go once he signs in.

Your help is appreciated

,

Sorry about earlier post in wrong area-

I have followed instructions to set up access levels (adding the

<% CHECKFOR = "4" %>    for user level 4 for instance.) The database is connecting properly and the basic check for login is taking place, but it seems that all users have access to all levels no matter what is on the database; i.e I set up a test page with "checkfor=4" and all users have access to it, even those with lower leve access.

Any ideas?

Thanks

,

SQL Server Datareader Datawriter Permissions..

here is a screenshot that shows how to set datareader and datawriter permissions on an aspbanner database using "SQL Enterprise Manager"

In this example we are making sure the aspbanneruser has those permissions on the aspbanner table in the database


cwilliams38325.8002893519, Thanks Chris,

I'll try to help when I get back tues night,, see the contact page for info on where I am
http://www.cjwsoft.com/contact/default.asp?Subject=CJWSoft+G eneral+Inquiry

,


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