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gotcha...thanks.Tongue, 1st of all when I look at the site I see a lot of non US characters and I can see the regional settings of the site are foreign.

ASPClassifieds in only intended to run under US and Canadian regional settings as stated on the site.

Thus the BIG notice on the purchase page.
http://www.aspclassifieds.com/purchase.asp

It won't run right like that for a lot of reasons and it is not supported like that as that notice says.

The categories showing 0 is just one of the problems you will have.

If I help you fix this it will just lead to 4 more issues right after.

If you would like support with the classifieds application you need to run it on a server with US or Canadian regional settings like the site says. ,



Hi all

User activity screen shows history of logged-in users.

Is it possible to view only those users that are currently logged in ? not the all users that have logged in previously

thanks in advance

 

,

you dont want to use the virtual smtp virtual server method... you want to use a real remote email server with valid MX records..

ultimately though after all that is going is it is out of the hands of the asp code and it becomes issues other then the code sending the email... regarding to whether or not emails get blocked by certain organizations

For example:
I have many aol users sign up for various systems I have running without issue. I use CDOSYS with my own server mail.cjwsoft.com which has proper MX records set up.

I would also try to determine the difference between blocking and spam/junk email filtering. It is impoirtant to truly know what is going on.
Sometimes adding more information to the body of the emails going out will eliminate the junk mail filters from gettings the emails.

Then you have the various open relay lists that places like AOL use. If your email server or IP sending the email is on those lists for spamming you do not stand a chance. That is all out of the hands of the ASP code.

,

The only major usability issue I've found to date is multi-zone banners. Cloning is helpful to a point, but then if you have a change to that banner, you have to make the change 6 times or what have you. I think, even at the expense of speed, multi-zone capability for a single banner would be excellent addition. Of course, that supposes I haven't just missed it and it's already there.

cwilliams38453.6665509259,

If you are using version 6 CDOSYS is not supported. That is one reason why version 7 came out. If you want to rewrite the code to work with CDOSYS in version 6 that is something you need to sort out on your own as I do not support custimization to the code.

,

it's ok

one step at a time and at each step testing things.. then when you mess something up you can figure it out a lot easier

cwilliams38456.1106018519, "get_me_in.asp" just hangs during a new install. Nothing happens no matter how long you wait and IIS may temporarily hang up as well.

You may very well be running something like norton antivirus with norton script blocker on your server? Or something similar?

It can cause issues when ASP uses the filesystem object and cause never ending page hangs like you are having.

Read this..
http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2180,

More Upgrade Info

To upgrade an existing ASPBanner system please follow these steps.

Back up your old system completely before starting.

Install the new system per the installation instructions that came with it.

Once it is running simply use your old ASPBanner database with the new system.

You may also want to keep your banner images folder from before in the same location so your existing banners still link to valid image urls because the new system stores banner images in a new location.

Since the config table in the database is no longer used you will need to go to the settings screen of aspbanner again and configure things. The config table in your old database can be deleted or left alone. It won't be used anymore so it does not matter either way.

That is all there is to it. If you have any issues please ask in the forums and we will help you out.

cwilliams38211.7525231481,

If we wanted to user groups, is the "Access Level" in the User setup the same ID as what the group access would be?  Ex. If John had Access Level 4 and the page specified <% GROUPACCESS = "4" %>
<!--#INCLUDE FILE="check_user_inc.asp"-->

I'm asking because there is no Group Access Level in the user setup.  Thanks

,

I have been using this solution for over a year now and think its great, however I recently logged on to add a banner and when I clciked on the link that opens a window, displaying all the gifs in the directory../images/banners/, now images showed up, however they do exist in that directory.

I recently upgraded my computer and am now using windows XP...could that be the problem?

 

Thanks

 

,

I made the changes like you suggested, but now the page just times out before even loading. 

<%
ConnectionString = "DBQ=D:\clients\rklarman\DrWeisbergUsers.mdb;Driver={Microso ft Access Driver (*.mdb)}"
DatabaseType = "MSACCESS"
%>

,

I have imported like 50,000 users into an access database when testing... it took like 4-5 minutes but worked..

course it really all depends on the setup how many you can get away with

something must still be wrong

have you tried just importing 1 or 2 users for troubleshooting sake ?

I would also recommend that after any timeout you reboot the server or at the very least do an "iisreset" to get things back to normal

,

import/export feature WARNING !!

I just want to warn everyone that the built in import/export feature can be a little dangerous.
The reason being is when you import users they get new "Users_ID"s in the database.

The "User_ID" field is an autonumber field and that is why and there is nothing you can do about it.

So, if you are using a user's current "User_ID" to keep track up something important NEVER export the users and re-import them. Because their "User_ID" will change and you will be in trouble.

The PayPal signup features of ASPProtect actually use the "User_ID" like this and that is the main reason this warning is here.

now, that being said

If you are importing new users into ASPProtect

or

simply exporting existing users to another system

then this is nothing to worry about.


Basically, the moral of this story is dont think of the built in Import/Export feature as backup system because it is not. It is not a substistute for backing up your database.

It is a just a tool that can come in handy for various things.

cwilliams38425.0597685185,

Upgrade from V6 to v7.x with an MSSQL SERVER DATABASE

1st of all, backup your existing ASPProtect files and database before performing this upgrade. Please be really careful while performing this upgrade. Version 7.x  is a highly advanced application compared to any previous versions. CJWSoft under no circumstances is responsible if you lose information or have website downtime.

BOTTOM LINE: (PERFORM THIS UPGRADE AT YOUR OWN RISK)

To do this upgrade you're going to need to have SQL Enterprise Manager and SQL Query Analyzer

That being said, on with the upgrade..


Open your SQL database in SQL Enterprise Manager

Regarding the following Tables

Rename "Users" to "ASPP_Users"
Rename "Groups" to "ASPP_Groups"

If you do not have a "Groups" table do not worry about it right now.

Now right click and DELETE the Config Table.
Yes, delete it..

Now, go into Design View for the "ASPP_Users" Table.

Rename the "Password" field to "Old_Password"
Be sure to spell it perfectly using the Underscore

If you have a "Groups" Field... leave it alone
If you do not have a "Groups" Field add one and make it a "nvarchar" field with a lengh of 255.

Now, we are going to add a few more new fields.

Add a field called "Redirection_URL" make it a "nvarchar" field with a lengh of 150.
Add a field called "PayPal_Subscriber_ID" make it a "nvarchar" field with a lengh of 100.
Add a field called "Newsletter" and make it a "bit" field
Add a field called "Password" and make it a "nvarchar" field with a lengh of 100.

Now close that window and save the changes..

Download these scripts.

2005-02-23_171110_aspprotect_v7_sql_upgrade_scripts.zip

Now open up SQL Query Analyzer
Connect to your SQL server.

Then load the script  "aspprotect_v7_config_table.sql" into the Query Analyzer.  Click the green play button at the top. If everything goes well the response should read something like this.

******************************************************
(1 row(s) affected)
******************************************************

Now, if you had a Groups Table your done with the database changes.

If you didnt have a groups table.

Then load the script  "aspprotect_v7_groups_table.sql" into the Query Analyzer.  Click the green play button at the top.

Now, go back to your database in Enterprise Manager and make sure all 3 tables are there and look ok. You might need to do a refresh or two to see them.

Now make sure an existing or new SQL user has (public / datareader / datawriter) permissions for all three tables. You reference this user in the asp code connection string so this user must be set up correctly. You may need your SQL server admins or hosting company to help you on this step as you may not have access to do this. You may not need to create a user and set permissions as the sql user you were logged in as to use query analyzer may by default get the correct permissions on anything you create.

Regardless, as you can see from this screenshot I have a SQL user called "aspprotectuser" and proceeded to set the permissions for that user. Under database access giving him (public,datareader, and datewriter permissions).


Now, you are done upgrading your SQL Server Database.

The existing passwords still have to be encrytped and moved from the "Old_Password" to the "Password" field

To that we have a special page we run in the application that will take care of that.

So, for now... go install the application, but using the database we just created.
Follow these instructions for the most part...
http://support.cjwsoft.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=181& ; ;PN=1

When you get to the part where you finally get into the admin area and need to make an admin account you will notice that your existing user database is there but none of the users have passwords if you look at them in the edit screen.

That is normal. Simply do what the instructions say and create and admin account using a username that does not exist..

Then log off... then back in as that new admin account. If that works you are ready to convert the passwords.

This part is very easy.

You want to run a special page via the browser.

http://www.mysite.com/password_admin/convert_to_encrypted.asp

Replacing the part in blue with your website info.

Once you get the page running you will see a login prompt and one form field just like before with the "get_me_in.asp" page

You will need to paste the "PasswordEncryptionKey" value that you used in the "config_inc.asp" file in the form field and hit enter.

If all goes well you will see a page telling you to click here to encrypt the passwords and copy them over.

So do what it says... dont click more than once and wait.

Eventually it should say it is finished. So go log in to the admin area of the system using the new admin account.

Now edit some users but dont save... you want to see if the passwords are showing up. If they are the conversion worked. If you see nothing or a garbled mess it did not work and you made a mistake during this whole process.

If things went well backup and delete the conversion file below.

http://www.mysite.com/password_admin/convert_to_encrypted.asp

You do not need it anymore.

Once you are positive every thing is running smoothly and everyone's passwords are ok you can go in and delete the "Old_Password" field as well.



If things didnt go well.. try again from scratch and go slowly.
If they still dont go well get ahold of us for help.

We are here to help, but if you really want us to we can be hired to do the conversion.

,

I'm getting errors when clicking the Update Config Button in the System Info page and when clicking the log files button.

I'm not sure if it's a permission thing or not.  ASPNET and IUSR both have modify access to the _database folder and childs, yet I'm still getting the error:

Access to the path "D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\aspprotectnet\_database\xsd\aspprotectne t_config.xml" is denied.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.UnauthorizedAccessException: Access to the path "D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\_database\xsd\aspprotectnet_config.xml" is denied.

ASP.NET is not authorized to access the requested resource. Consider granting access rights to the resource to the ASP.NET request identity. ASP.NET has a base process identity (typically {MACHINE}\ASPNET on IIS 5 or Network Service on IIS 6) that is used if the application is not impersonating. If the application is impersonating via <identity impersonate="true"/>, the identity will be the anonymous user (typically IUSR_MACHINENAME) or the authenticated request user.

To grant ASP.NET write access to a file, right-click the file in Explorer, choose "Properties" and select the Security tab. Click "Add" to add the appropriate user or group. Highlight the ASP.NET account, and check the boxes for the desired access.

Any ideas?

Thanks

,

Hello,

Again, enspecified error are not very helpful.
An error usually tells you at least a line number and page or something.

Please read this as it might help do tell me more.
http://support.cjwsoft.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11& PN=1

As for only happening once in a while. It could be a lot of things.

Version being used (when did you purchase.. what name/email was it under and I can look) ?
What banner method being used?
Access or MSSQL ?
How busy the site is ?
Server Resources ?

cwilliams38414.6114930556, Now, back in the dark ages we had to use the command prompt to setup the MySQL database and all that fun stuff. I am not going to show you that method.

What happened was 100 different  3rd party companies developed interfaces to work with the MySQL server visually. Within the past year MySQL actually released its own little GUI for doing just that so I am going to show you how to do things using that.

Let's download and install it.

Go here
http://www.mysql.com/products/tools/

and download Windows (x86) MySQL Administrator
(1.1 is the most current version at the time of this article)

Installing that is a no-brainer as well. Just stick to the defaults and it will do its thing.

Now that it is finished.. run MySQL Administrator from your start menu.



It will ask for your "root" password that we entered when we set up the server.

Hit OK



You should see this if your MySQL server is runnign and you entered the correct password.

Now select the Catalogs Icon on the right.. go down to the Schemata section.. right click in the lower white area and choose Create New Schema



It will look like this



Essentially this is your database name. I am going to call my database "aspbanner"

Hit ok

Your now have a new database with nothing in it. We now need to run the MySQL database creation scripts that I provide which will create the Tables and Fields needed.

The easiest way when using the MySQL Administrator is to select the Restore icon on the left.



The choose "Open Backup File" in the lower right corner.. Browse to the "aspbanner_mysql.sql" file we provide. You can also download that file here. 2006-03-14_164927_MySQL_Script.zip

Once you select that file choose open...



Now, it is very important you choose the database you created earlier. Also known as Target Schema.. in this case I choose "aspbanner"

Now hit "Start Restore"



Ok, now the database has Tables and Fields

Click on the Catalogs Icon on the left and then select aspbanner from the schemata area in the lower left



You'll see we now have tables in the aspbanner database,

Hallo,

Can I change the number of the access levels?

I want to have about 20 levels...

Wink

, I have multiple zone banners displayed on a single page using the AspHTTP Component Method.

However, in IE 6.x and NS 7.x each banner has some text displayed before it similar to:

HTTP/1.1 200 OK Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:15:12 GMT MicrosoftOfficeWebServer: 5.0_Pub Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Length: 229 Content-Type: text/html Set-Cookie: ASPSESSIONIDAASSDQBA=HAICCGCANEBEPANCDHLHJJGC; path=/ Cache-control: private


This text does not appear when using Netscape 4.x cwilliams38325.741099537,

[QUOTE=spider]At the bottom of my "users" list page, it asks the question "number of users displayed per page"?  After hitting a larger number than the default of 1-25, it increases the number of users per page to that number.  But as soon as I leave that page, it goes back to the default.  Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

That is how it is supposed to work. It is not supposed to remember that info after you leave. If you want it to always start at some default number simply copy the URL info after picking a number. You'll see the querystrings that tell the page what to do in the address field of your browser. Take that entire URL and  edit the button in the admin area to link to that. The links for the buttons are in the "header_inc.asp" file and you should edit that file with a text editor.

That's the easy non technical way to set a default on the users page and that applies to anything including doing a sort or whatever.

example...

you might change this

<a href="default.asp"><img src="../images/users.gif" border="0" alt="Users"></a>

to something like this

<a href="http://www.yoursite.com /aspprotect/password_admin/default.asp?SORTBY=Email+DESC& ;MyPageSize=500="><img src="../images/users.gif" border="0" alt="Users"></a>

,

1st: try it with a normal dsn-less connection like we show in the example.. dont use that OLEDB.4.0 connection string.. connecting like that can cause a lot of problems and is not as great as everyone thinks it is and it can sometimes be difficult to get it working when the database has a password set on it

For the sake of troubleshooting just connect like so: (fixing the path of course)

ConnectionString = "DBQ=C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\aspprotect\data\database\ASPProtect_ access2002.mdb;Driver={Microsoft Access Driver (*.mdb)};UID=Admin;Password=temp"

ASPProtect will generate the actual connection string you should use when you run this page

http://www.mysite.com/data/setup_info.asp

Replacing the part in blue with your website info.


2nd: any IIS server setup to have the access database over the network path like that has a poor setup... and that can cause all sorts of problems as well, access is not designed to run over the network like that.. for more on that read this thread -  Start 5 posts down
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/code_info.asp?TID=479&KW =OLEDB%2E4%2E0

3rd: If the app does not run using the connection string like I say to use then the problem is 100% on their end and is either related to permissions or the fact they are keeping the access database on a network path which is BAD BAD BAD... no quality host that knew what they are doing would set it up that way.. ultimately you don't want to host asp with a place that has a setup like that

4th: If you want to try some other stuff out we have a free guestbook, asptest, and a free version of aspbanner you can try out as well... www.cjwsoft.com

5th: If you need a quality asp host that knows what they are doing and offers great asp support www.alentus.com is the place

6th: Your right, it is not the code, its the data connection

, I have no idea to be honest, I just like the way it looks 

Good deal on the remote install, just dont pull the old "hangman" move shutdown the machine on yourself around 4AM. Otherwise you be getting in the car and going for a drive LOL


, as an update... it is now possible to use Website Payments Pro  with classic ASP..

However, you basically need to own/run your own server because of certificate signing and special things that must be installed on it. The certificates you have to generate requires your paypal username and password so it's definetly not something hosts are going to do for people.

So... this still isn't plausible at this time...,

I appreciate the offer to beta test... but its really more a matter of me getting it ready..

I have a lot done.. but a lot of things are hard coded to only work on my machine and some things have not been sorted out. Giving it to someone else to test would be a waste of time at this point as I they probably couldn’t even run it.

Lately the reason this project has fallen behind has all to do with my main webserver where I collocate.

1st it got compromised (we think by certain competitors who are always up to no good)... then windows 2003 server which I decided to go with on the new server gave me random problems... then the Cisco hardware firewall was acting up and making the sites run slow....then SQL server attacks on port 1433 from Korea when I took the firewall down....and as of the last few days I think the server just needs a new power supply. I swear for the last 2 months I have spent more time administrating my servers than working on code. Yesterday it was locking up every 30 minutes. There have been a lot of days like that and it takes up all my time until I get it situated.  Especially since its over 100 miles to the collocation center. The APC unit I installed that allows me to remotely cut the power to hard reboot is a life saver.

Fun... I tell ya... and expensive.. (hardware, software, lost sales, and time) I am pretty much completely broke at the moment. It has been a very expensive few months.

But I like running my own servers... I run dns servers, email servers, sql servers, web servers.. I do it all. It's keeps me in touch with the latest software/hardware. Regardless , my servers ran well for years and they will again.


anyway.. hopefully I can actually get a new version of the photo gallery out before the month is over. It will probably be the last classic asp version. The version after that will most likely be ASP.net.

cwilliams38295.6248032407,

Now I am having trouble using the log function. 

 

I have checked the box in administration area for UseLogFiles.  I have put the expected path for the LogFileDirectory in the box.  I have modified the permissions for the anonymous web site user to modify this directory.  However the log file does not get updated and there is nothing when I go to view the logs. 

 

thx

, just FYI -- i added in a new data table into the database.  I havent finished implementing the whole thing across the entire site, but it wasn't too difficult.  Once I have all of the functionality complete I'll post some details.  Some of the changes are the addition of a new album nav style which combines style 2 and some of the features of the new data table.

Very easy app to work with guys.
, Because employees and sales reps might leave or go to work at competitors without our knowledge and we can't have them get an perm account so we need to implement some sort of expiry and then review their account with them., Verison 8 is superior in every way and the code is much more optimized so yes I think it would handle it better. It is still a lot of banners on one page though which means a lot of hits to the database if you call them all individually with zone calling code. SQL server would make sense more than MSACCESS.

Now, the only reason I said make one zone for all those banners on the home page is because a banner has to be associated with a zone. It would make sense to put them all in one because if you just tracked the clicks like I mentioned you really wouldnt be using the zone except for maybe when you go to view stats. ,

cool.. let see if that works.  This was the command line that I had to enter in order for it to register.  Chris, as you stated before, you can try one of the other emailers, but you need a email server to tie to. 

"regsvr32 cdonts.dll"

,

Thanks Chris.

Your solution worked!

, the no concurrent login feature is based on IP addresses.. if you logged in again using the same IP address it would let you in regardless. So for example if you were behind a rhome router and logged in to a site on the internet it would nt matter if you had multiple computers at home because they would all have the same external IP address... etc etc

In other words it is tricky to correctly test..

I really need more detailed info on everything going on. I real world scenarios there are no issues with that feature that I know of. At least according to customers so far. , Thank you!  I thought that is what had to be done, just didn't want to miss out on a short cut if there was one.  Thanks again,

Hi Chris:

Is there a way I can include the username and password in the URL of a protected page to gain access to a that page without going through the log-in page?

I'm not quite sure what the syntax would be in the URL.

Warren

,

Chris, I'm having problems getting this to work. When I plug in the redirect URL and then try to load the web page, the Flash ad never loads successfully - just its black background in the 468 x 60 space. Here's an example of what I'm seeing:

http://www.innovationtools.com/Articles/ArticleHeadlines.asp

Just keep refreshing the page until the black rectangle appears. And here is the code I've loaded for this flash ad:

<OBJECT classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
 codebase=" http://active.macromedia.com/flash2/cabs/swflash.cab#version =4,0,0,0" ID=banner WIDTH="468" HEIGHT="60">
 <PARAM NAME=movie VALUE=" http://www.innovationtools.com/aspbanner/aspbanner/banner_re direct.asp?Banner_ID=25">
 <PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high>
 <PARAM NAME=bgcolor VALUE=#000000>
 <embed src=" http://www.innovationtools.com/aspbanner/aspbanner/images/ba nners/mindmatters_innovation3.swf "
quality="high" bgcolor="#3CBDCD" WIDTH="468" HEIGHT="60" TYPE="application/x-shockwave-flash" PLUGINSPAGE=" http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Pr od_Version=ShockwaveFlash">
</OBJECT>

What am I doing wrong? By the way, I'm using the standard version of ASPBanner. Not sure of the version, but it dates from about 2002.

, Say, is it possible to get something to whack every totally inactive account? Preferably joke ones that nobody every actually logged on with.

I'd want to have it delete the account if the following conditions were met:

1. Active = NO
2. Counter < 1 or is a null value
3. Access <1 or is a null value (some people may have logged on and let their accounts expire, so they may want to log back in again with the same info)

I suppose an advanced version of a mass delete tool would allow the admin to select different parameters, but there would DEFINITELY need to be a "Are you sure? REALLY REALLY SURE???" step in there to make sure you didn't toast your database without being stupid twice in a row.

If I knew ASP code, I'd write it myself. I don't, so I make a pitch for a new feature...
cwilliams38456.0980671296, No, because ASPProtect.NET is licensed per and only runs in One website (one iis application)

That error however probably has more to do with parent paths being disabled on the server.,

There is nothing built in to the system but it is very doable.
However, you need to be a decent asp coder because your going to have to write some code.

Basically you would want to do a check on the screen where a user uploads to count how many pictures they have uploaded.

Then act accordinly and either let them or dont let them proceed.

 

On a side note the overall filesize limit of the total of all pictures a user can upload can be set when you edit a user.

 

,

i've got a client who has handed me a 151 character banner URL, and i see that the database is designed to take 150 characters. i took the obvious step of just increasing the size of that text field in the database, but i still get this error when i try to enter the URL in the proper form field:

Multiple-step OLE DB operation generated errors. Check each OLE DB status value, if available. No work was done.

/banners/aspbanner/save_banner.asp, line 200

now, line 200 is just this:

If Banner_Link_URL = "" THEN
 CmdEditBanner.Fields("Banner_Link_URL") = NULL
Else
 CmdEditBanner.Fields("Banner_Link_URL") = Banner_Link_URL
End If

which tells me that something is blocking the assignment of that long value to that field, even though i believed i had extended the length of that field in the source database.

where else might i look?

 

,

Banners no longer show up on my site ?

If banners were working fine and now they are just not showing up.
1st check to see that you are calling a valid zone with live banners in it.
If you are then most likely this it what hapened.

The web server must have crashed or lost power and now the application variables are in limbo/not working.

I have seen this happen a few times.

Basically the application variable system gets messed up because it was not shut down properlly.

The way to cure it are as follows.

Edit and save a banner in the system. Hopefully that gets things going again.

,


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