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I have ASPPhotoGallery installed. Everything has been working great for some time. Suddenly, for no apparent reason, I am not getting the "Hits" incremented when a user opens an album. It works when an administrator is logged on. Does not for any anonymous users. Everything else seems to work fine. Again, this used to work. Any ideas. , At the bottom of my "users" list page, it asks the question "number of users displayed per page"?  After hitting a larger number than the default of 1-25, it increases the number of users per page to that number.  But as soon as I leave that page, it goes back to the default.  Any thoughts?,



Flash files cannot track clicks unless you edit the original flash file to link to the aspbanner system redirect URL.. feeding it the correct ID of the banner.

When that link is clicked on it will then track the click and redirect the user to the “link url” specified for that banner. 

The system actually generates the necessary ASPBanner URL for you. That link is shown on the banner edit screen.(you must save the banner at least once and come back to that screen to see the link though) 

Really the best way to show it is with an example as seen below.



Basically the flash banner file "powerasp.swf" highlighted in green needs to be edited to link to the banner redirect url which is highlighted in red.... the banner redirect url will then track the click and ultimately send the user to the Link_URL highligthed in blue.

All banners systems work this way when it comes to flash files.
It’s the nature of flash and the web browser, 

The flash source code must be edited to link to the redirect url in the ASPBanner system. There is no possible way any banner system can track a flash click unless the flash file links to the banner system 1st.... because that click is handled by Flash and the web browser. 

In some cases if you do have the original source file for the flash banner then you are out of luck as far as tracking clicks goes.



On a side note... if you create flash banners the way this article says you can actually feed a .swf flash file a link for it to click to. Instead of it being hardcoded.

http://www.macromedia.com/resources/richmedia/tracking/desig ners_guide/index.html

This is really the way everyone should design their flash banners from now on because the url it links to can be easily changed at any time without editing the flash file source code. 

cwilliams38085.095150463, if you are talking about IPN subscriptions and how they work paypal has detailed manauls on their site.. if you are talking about asp.net in general there are probably a lot of good books..

the reason I said look at the aspprotect 7 code is cause the applications and database are very similar and the same techniques will apply for the most part as far as how the ipn subscription posts from paypal talk to the database and what happens during the various post events.. etc etc etc , how would anyone recommend i go about setting a different expiration date for each group a user may belong to?,

Hello cwilliams, and thank you for the fast reply.

Well, i have tryed with the ASPImage enabled and disabled, with the same results. I have used gifs and jpgs in the tests.
I have made some different test. Some with uploading the picture over an excisting picture and some as the first picture. Same results.
Everytime, it´s the 2nd thumbnail that won´t show itself, but the large picture will show, if you press the thumbnail.

I have tryed to look in the code (view_ad.asp), but as far as i can see, everything seems just fine ?!

I know, it wasn´t much help i could give you, but i think i have tryed all the possibilities.

Best regards, Erling

 


 

, The webpage header for CJWSoft  states "Web Development for Win NT/2000 servers" - a little dated cause it works just fine on 2003 too, right? :),

Hi

I have purchased the Standard version about a week ago. Its a great script.

I have been able to select  uploaded banners from day one... but just now i dont seem to be able to select...

i know its hard for you to trouble shoot with such little information.. but i had to ask..

Should i maybe upload the site again ( but same the database first)?

regards

Domenic

Sydney, Australia

 

, yes, any page you want protected needs to be edited..

You can probably have a login box on a non protected page. Just copy the generated source html form code for the login box of a protected page. Then put it on your non-protected page, but change the action to the page you want them to log in to.

In other words go to a protected page. See the login box, view the html browser source and use that to make your login form on the main page.

I have not tried it with .NET but I am pretty sure you can do it since it pretty much works the same as the classic asp version of ASPProtect.

try it.. see if it works.. If I have time tommoro I will test it out.,

Ahhh....yes, I always forget about the cache.  That's exactly what it was. 

 I had made modifications to the import_pics.asp file, because I added more fields to the db, and made the import folder path dynamic, but I seem to have forgotten to add in the response.expires=0

Once I added this back in it has stopped messing up.

What was happening was, it wasn't overwriting the files, nor were they too big, but you would click on one thumbnail in an album(category) and it would display a picture from a totally different category.  It seems browser cache was the culprit, however.

Thanks for the quick reply, great product tooo!!!

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All can say right now is take a break and get away from it for a bit. All your going to do is stress yourself out more if you keep working on it.

There is probably a way to make it work but it may require days of fiddling around and reading articles and trying things and even then you may not get it working AND THEN ITS JUST A BAD IDEA ANYWAY. Like John says you are better off running it on a server that is not a domain controller.

, Say, is it possible to get something to whack every totally inactive account? Preferably joke ones that nobody every actually logged on with.

I'd want to have it delete the account if the following conditions were met:

1. Active = NO
2. Counter < 1 or is a null value
3. Access <1 or is a null value (some people may have logged on and let their accounts expire, so they may want to log back in again with the same info)

I suppose an advanced version of a mass delete tool would allow the admin to select different parameters, but there would DEFINITELY need to be a "Are you sure? REALLY REALLY SURE???" step in there to make sure you didn't toast your database without being stupid twice in a row.

If I knew ASP code, I'd write it myself. I don't, so I make a pitch for a new feature...
cwilliams38456.0980671296, if you just see code then you do not have ASP and Web Server setup correctly.. Basic IIS Server Setup stuff and not something I cover, but there is plenty of info out there.

http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2084

http://www.codefixer.com/tutorials/installation.asp

http://www.webwizguide.com/asp/tutorials/installing_iis_winX P_pro.asp

http://www.w3schools.com/asp/asp_intro.asp





, Your assumption was incorrect.... the login count has nothing to do with that. The login count only has one purpose and that is to limit the amount of times a user can log in if you want to do that.

Logging in for the 1st time means the time at which they 1st login and their session at the site is created... If there session ends and they come back and login they will get redirected because it will be the 1st time again.

Forms Based Authentication is all about sessions and session variables.

If you only want them redirected somewhere based on the login count that is something you have to work out and check on your own. It's very doable.

Seems like now I should have explained that better but I never thought anyone would think it meant what you thought.,

The parent paths things really should not be an issue.

This is an article from the troubleshooting section of the documentation that takes care of it all very easily.

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo162-1.htm


As for a good host that knows ASP and does not mess around when you ask for something. I always recommened www.alentus.com

 

, sorry for the confusion, but I am not that good with the tech explantions yet.
what it boils down to is I have an Access Database containing over 100 members names.  I want only those people to be able to get into the secure pages.
Thanks.  Harvey
, When a logged in user with specific group rights tries to look at a page that has different group membership requirements the Login screen comes up giving them an opportunity to login with different rights to view the page.  If you log in again with your current user name the same login screen returns with the added words something to the effect of "Access Denied, you dont have group rights to this page...".

The only way to get back to the previous page is to hit the back button on the browser (there is not a back button on the denied page). 

I would really rather not even present the "login again" screen to a user but just have a custom page that says "access denied" of my own design with a back button on it.  Is this an option provided for in ASPProtect currently?  I did not see it in the admin section settings tab.  Is there a separate "login again" asp file that is being used for this group access deny message that I could alter, or does it always have to be the login asp file?
Or would this require me modifying the check_user_inc.asp file around line 356 to change this behavior (I don't want to screw up any other stuff though...).

Thanks!!

Oh, PS.  just a quick check...it looks like if a user is an "admin" he automatically gets to see all group pages regardless of which set of group numbers are assigned in his user account...is that right?





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It's MS Access, Version 7 (the Full one).

Anyway, I had inadvertently changed the user_id field type to "number".  When I changed it back to "autonumber", everything went back to normal.

 

Thanks you very much for your quick reply and sorry to have bothered you.

, thats intertesting.. I have never heard of the concept until now..

I did a search for ASP examples or ASP components that can help with the process and just couldn't find anything about it.,

I have been using ASPBanner for a while and am very pleased with it. Congratulations on a good product.

Only one feature is missing that would really help me and this is being able to display banners dependent on some condition (/aspbanner/aspbanner_inc.asp?BannerZone=6&condition=xxx ).

I think this would be a good idea as it would allow users to present adverts based on different criteria; for example; specific country/region related ads, ads based on time of day, ads based on user preferences, etc.

To achieve this I was thinking of adding a field to the database so that I can enter a set of comma delimited conditions for which the banner can be displayed.

I have looked through some of the asp code with the intention of seeing how easy it would be to implement the functionality. Not knowing the code however, I think that modifying it myself would be risky as I may inadvertently change things, which would have a negative effect.

Would adding this type of functionality in ASPBanner be of interest to you. If not, can you let me have your opinion as to whether this would be relatively simple change for me to do myself or would it be too risky and I should give up the idea. Any guidance or feedback would be appreciated.

 

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One is for paypal subscriptions (recurring billing) and the other is for single payments

http://support.cjwsoft.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=185& ; ; ;PN=1

http://support.cjwsoft.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=186& ; ; ;PN=1

You can delete any of the 3rd party payment directories you are not using including the the 2checkout one... (all those folders really are is a copy of the users folder specially modified to handle a certain payment processor)

Just Don't delete the "users" folder though as there are things you do there that you can not do anywhere else..  quite a few things..  editing existing account info, looking up passwords... etc etc

 

cwilliams38446.6055555556,

Hello,

What is the difference between the paypal_sub_signup and the paypal_signup directories?  Also, I know it depends, but what directories and files can I delete from my web server if I am not using them?  I copied the entire set of files that came with the program over to the webserver and I am concerned that there is too much out there.

Jess

cwilliams38446.6304050926, I will give you permission to move it since you asked., gotcha...thanks.Tongue,

right..

I had to open up the permissions to get it to work.  I now have to go back and uncheck each one for directory listing.. :)

 

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Just wanted to let you know that after modifying the remote host string in the email pages and getting the correct connection from my server, everything is running fine.

I hope you enjoyed your vacation.

thank you
adam

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if that account isnt there thats normal because if it doesn't have any permissions for that folder so it wouldnt be listed

you simply dig into the menus a liitle deaper and find it then add it.

cwilliams38417.6984606481,

Yes, I was referring to ASP Protect.

I had about a dozen people access the same account, but it is highly unlikely that they would all try at the same time (unless there were several hundred people who had access). Having an enhanced login abuse would be nice.

 

,

Hello,

I do not really understand what you mean?
There are no country and city lists in ASPClassifieds.

cwilliams38391.0301388889,
This post unfortutely needs to be here because this application has been the biggest pain in the neck for me you could possibly imagine. This is not because of problems with the application, but because of people's general lack of knowlegde regarding ASP.NET. This post totally voices my stance on what sort of knowledge you need to have and also the fact that I am not going to support anything but general installation on a correctly and professionaly set up live server.

ASPProtect.NET is a great application but using ASP.NET requires a lot more basic knowledge than using classic ASP and there are a lot of basic low level ASP.NET things that need to be set up correctly for an application like ASPProtect.NET to run. These are things I do not cover because you should know the ASP.NET basics when using an application as complex as this. It's just that I don't have time to nor should I have to teach people the basics of ASP.NET. I don't charge nearly enough for ASPProtect.NET to offer that kind of support.

So, I will say it one more time. ASPProtect.NET is targeted towards experienced Visual Studio.NET developers that know how to work with Code Behind VB.NET and are familiar with basic ASP concepts such as IIS application settings, the .NET framework, the
aspnet_client folder, and the basics of the web.config file.  If you are using ASP.NET for whatever reason you need to know about these things. The best way is to get some good books and do set up ASP.NET on a local development machine so you can start learning.

If you are one of the ASP.NET challenged let me say this as well.

Stick with Classic ASP. ASP.NET is a step in the wrong direction for the average user which I like to refer to as "Joe Coder". Classic ASP is very powerful and easy to pick up. ASP.NET is not easy to pick up and never will be for a lot of people. In my opinion it’s actually the wrong technology to use for anyone other than big corporations who need extreme scalability in their applications or for the hobbyist or object oriented programmer who just wants to use the latest and greatest.  Ask yourself if you really want to deal with compiling Code Behind code each time you make changes to your web site as opposed to just editing some files in notepad real quick like you can do with classic ASP ? Do you have the money to purchase and use Visual Studio.NET or are you going to struggle with compiling all your ASP.NET pages using a command line compiler and a batch file ? Yes, you can build ASP.NET code that isn't code behind but why even bother if that is the case because your missing the point of ASP.NET if you do that and missing out on a lot of powerful new features and concepts.

When I do custom projects for bigger clients I usually end up using ASP.NET because they want to go that way and understand the time and money involved. When I do any of my own projects I use Classic ASP because the truth is you can still make some rockin busy scalable web sites with Classic ASP just like you can still make great web sites with CGI, PP, Cold Fusion.. etc etc. Look around the web because a lot of the biggest sites out there still use those scripting technologies and their stuff runs very well. ASP.NET is a lot of hype and although some things about it are plain awesome it is an environment best suited for real object oriented programmers, not the weekend code warriors.

The other thing to keep in mind about classic ASP is the shear abundance of applications and scripts available for it. ASP.NET can be expensive for that reason alone as there still is a shortage of good time tested applications out there and what is out there is always priced a lot higher.

In addition to that half of the ASP.NET applications out there are just half baked poorly converted versions of their Classic ASP counterparts. Is that the kind of thing you want to sink twice the money into or would you rather have something that runs well and has been tweaked year after year into a rock solid product?

To make things worse a lot of the hosting companies out there offering ASP.NET hosting are severely limiting the basic abilities of ASP.NET because of various security concerns. This means if you go with a Host that does that 75% of the asp.net stuff out there won't run on the hosted server. Isn't that wonderful ?

Now, Let's make things even worse. So far every time Microsoft has released a new version of ASP.NET a lot of things from the previous version have stopped working and needed to be modified to work correctly. Is that really something you will have the time, resources, and energy to deal with.

You may ask "but is classic ASP going to be around 5 years from now?" Though you never really know until the new version of windows server ships I say "Hell Yes" it will be. According to my sources at Port80 Software who work very closely with the folks at Microsoft (as well as many other sources out there) it will almost certainly be in Longhorn which is the next version of Windows Server. Longhorn probably won't come out until 2007 and will be popular for 3-4 years after that. The version of windows server after that will most likely support Classic ASP as well and if it doesn't I am sure there will be a way to make ASP run on it.  If you really look around a lot of hosting companies are still running Windows Server 2000 which is 5 years old at the moment. The bottom line is Classic ASP helped put Microsoft web technologies on the map. Microsoft can not simply drop it because if they do they give up a dominate market share to the scripting competition being PHP, CGI, Cold Fusion.. etc etc PHP for instance a huge installed base on many platforms which are essentially free. ASP.NET can not compete with that in any way and not supporting Classic ASP would put microsoft in a bad position.

Take it from me. If you are a weekend code warrior/script kiddie. You'll be a lot happier sticking with classic ASP. You will also have save a lot of money and you can still have great web sites. There are tons of great applications out there in ASP and ASP still is and always will be the easiest scripting language to work with and learn. Better yet look around on sites like www.4guysfromrolla.com and see if you actually understand any of the latest articles. If it looks like Greek to you that is yet another sign that you should stick to classic ASP.

Personally, I will be focusing just as much time and effort on ASP.NET as I will on Classic ASP in the years to come for a few reasons.
  1. Because I sell software I obviously need to convert/re-write most of my appIications to work with ASP.NET. My living may eventually depend on it.
     
  2. Because I love using the latest technologies I want to continue to develop using ASP.NET.
     
  3. Because I do many custom projects for various clients using ASP.NET is a must.
  4. Because in some cases using ASP.NET over classic ASP makes total sense.

Just don't fall for the HYPE folks. I am one of the few established developers out there that has a set of Balls and is willing to put the truth out there and see past the bullsh*t. If you go ASP.NET do it because you seriosuly think you need the power and scalabilty and money and time is not an issue or because you are a hobbiest and object oriented programmer who likes working with and has time to work with the latest and greatest web scripting technolgies out there. I truly believe that so far ASP.NET is as much a success as it is a failure. I am sure some of you out there know what I mean by that.

All this being said you should also realize that ASPProtect.NET is a little different than your average ASP.NET application because it uses a lot of advanced ASP.NET techniques and you essentially use it to password protect your existing scripts meaning you need to integrate your stuff with our stuff in a sense. If you just go buy some random ASP.NET application like a classifieds system or storefront it is probably just going to run on it's own an therefore will be a lot easier to set up and deal with.

Here are some links you folks should read as well.
http://rtfm.atrax.co.uk/infinitemonkeys/articles/asp/905.asp
http://www.itnewsgroups.net/group/microsoft.public.inetserve r.asp.general/topic2074.aspx
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;%5Bln%5D;L ifeWin

Chris Willians
http://www.cjwsoft.com/about.asp

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I have a solution for asp already but thanks anyway. Is there a good book or other learning tool I can purchase that you might know about? I would know where to start about how create a timed subscription in .NET.

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Is it actually possible, with your product, to password-protect the folder that has the actual database without having to require customers browsing the listings to enter a password, or will password-protecting the database folder prevent customers from browsing the classifeds listings?

, So do I just replace the four folders that came with aspprotect with the four (in my case domain directory) folders in the patch or just move the files?, sorry for delay responding,

I got bombarded with support inquiries while I was gone and I missed this one since I been home.

Does the server_info.asp page I provide say that aspupload is indeed installed. Let's start there. ,

Got it working.  Embarrassed  Had purchased a long time ago and forgot about needing to run the userreg.exe.  All is well and thanks for the follow up.

Lance

, Thanks and glad that fixed it.

You can review this software at
http://www.aspin.com/func/review?id=4952510

That being said, ASPIN has a lot of problems with anonymous reviews so if you can please sign up with them and post an Authentic review as they carry a lot more weight. Authentic reviews involve responding to their validation email so when doing so use a real email address that you regularly check.

And sorry I made you use the forums, but as you can see this is exactly the sort of thread that will help someone else later on.. and that is why I require people to use the forums now instead of just email support. That way the conversations are out in the open where they can help everyone instead of buried in my outlook where no one will ever see them. And of course if information is sensitive you can always do a Private Message as you did earlier.

It is all about creating a knowlegebase of valuable information.

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Chris, that fixed it.  Found 2-references to guestbook2 in the file show_messages_inc.asp located in the \guestbook\ directory.

Suggestion for future release.  Create an option to email the admin when a message is posted.  If this code already exists please advise.

Thanks, Lance

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I noticed that is grabbing the wrong URL for some reason. Even when i mouse over the URL its somehow getting the users sub directory. How.. i dont know... when i erase that users in the url it works perfectly.

I am looking at the code in the .vb file and i dont see anything that could be causing it to do that... but then again i am no programmer LOL

Its obviously kicking in that users subdirectory somehow... what are your thoughts?

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Yup everything looks ok - but why no error?

This just gets better - now the email a friend link says sent successfully and doesn't send out - what the heck...

What would cause it to 'think' it is doing the task yet still fail?

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Hi,

I can't seem to find the code where it limits the upload file size. I want to limit the upload size to 1.5 mg for all users. Also I've noticed that the 500 pix doesn't seem to work. As in if an image is bigger than 500 pix the script still uploads it. i am using Upload_post_VBSCRIPT.ASP.

Thanks

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