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Blog Entry: 3/25/2006 4:53:30 PM

okay thanks,

Hallo,

What do I have to do for inserting around 6,000 new users?

I have all my user in an access file. I don't know the password of access database files. The same problem with the "aspprotect upgrade pack".

Sorry for my English

vaghelis38300.2319097222,



Hi

I've tried almost anything here... I'm using an online SQL SERVER database with ASPProtect 7, and I can't login after my initial creation of the admin account.

It works fine with Access... I believe I have checked all the fields created by the sql statement (which was run with no errors),

What could be the problem here? could it be a problem that I run my local IIS against the online sql server?

sincerely,

Morten

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I dont understand why I would get an error? -- I'm not sending the email from internal - so why would it try to validate?

I'm trying to send an email to an independent place - just like I would send an email to you

Am I using the wrong email setting - should I be doing something other than using "remote server"

, Installing and running NET on a DOMAIN CONTROLLER is a BAD idea period. Besides the security risks you will have nothing but endless problems with that setup. Domain controllers ARE NOT and NEVER were intended to be run as any sort of application server. Your best bet is to run your asp and asp.net scripts from a member server or one set up just for web apps. Of course if your in the mood to mess around endlessly it is possible to make that work, but why would you want to when the prefered solution is a heck of a lot easier.
, Its not a known issue.. I would try the original code before you made any changes and see if it still happens to you.

It seems to be working fine here for me in amy test web.

I am going to look into some more in the meantime.cwilliams38341.7166782407,

Just got back 10 minutes ago..
Missed plane yesterday because of traffic and the flight today was 3 hours plus 4 hours of driving

The fact that you are using Server 2003 is not relevant. I am very familiar with it and all my sites run on it.

The ASPNET account will be there by default once the .NET framework is installed. It won’t just show up in the list, you have to search for it like my article mentions.

http://www.powerasp.com/content/new/windows_2003_server_and_ permissions.asp

That error really means exactly what it says. You have to give that account permissions correctly. ,

you not seeing the real error

http://support.cjwsoft.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11& PN=1

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I do not think it it anything to do with the Application.

You most likely have some sort of ad blocking software that is doing it.

It is seeing the word "banner" or "ad" and blocking the images in your browser.

I doubt it is anything built into xp doing it. XP with SP2 has built in pop-up blockers but no ad blockers like that really. It is norton ad blocker or something of that nature.

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Okay, here's the problem.  The out of the box sql script creates a catalog called aspphotogallery and a user id aspphotogalleryuser.

The out of the box GalleryConnectionString tries to access a catalog called aspgallery and a user id aspgallery

'*** GalleryConnectionString = "Provider=sqloledb;Data Source=p600laptop;Initial Catalog=aspgallery;User Id=aspgallery;Password=temp;"

I see the readme.txt has been corrected but the line in dataconn_inc.asp still needs to be changed.

lancem38325.9032986111,

ok, PM me some additional info so I can go look around.

I dont quite understand everything going on.

Let me know what to do exactly to be successful logging in and also...

Let me know what to do exactly to reproduce the issue and I will tell you what I think.

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here is a thread that may help you if this is what you were getting at


http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo389-1.htm

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Both the NET and Classic ASP versions of this application are designed for fine granularity protection of individual apsx extension files. ASPProtect.NET is not designed or intended to protect sub directories, or non aspx content such as Adobe Acrobat .pdf files etc etc.

I completely disagree with your statement that “most sites” have a login box on the left hand side of the page. I suspect you thinking of the ever popular php based forums and “Nuke” type CMS systems which are set up that way but if you look at any site written entirely using .NET that’s rarely if ever the case. (Granted I cant say for sure because I personally haven’t looked at >50% of the estimated 18 billion +  web pages on the internet) Just off the top of my head www.CafePress.com come to mind as a pure .NET site. If you take a look the login button it takes you to its own login page there is not global login form used throughout the site. Reason being that .NET introduced this thing called a “view state” which is used to store things like your session ID (and way more) and must be posted back to the server in order to keep track of visitors. This technology comes in especially handy when you have a web farm in place and your content is being spit out out by more than one server at the same time

I can think of loads of scenarios where the web servers need to know who you are even though you are never directly contacting them via http. This approach is a very smooth and actually very clever solution for enterprise level websites that simply can’t be handled with a single web server.

 On a practical level I know what you are saying but that application sets up all sorts of things when a protected page is accessed and the user is not yet authenticated. That’s the entire reason you need to put that snippet of code at the top of a page you want to protect. That code snippet calls the ASPProtect.NET class and runs through all the logic to see if you are able to access the page. If you are the subroutine exits and the server continues to process the remaining logic on the page. AKA you are able to access its content. If you are NOT authenticated ASPProtect will setup all the proper session and viewstate info and redirect you to the login page for authentication. You may have also noticed a parameter on the login page called ReturnURL. The application looks for that info and if you do have a user ID and password the application automatically redirects you to the page you were trying to access in the first place.

Really I have no idea what you are trying to do, but there is a world of difference in how something looks verses how it works. Lets just say there was a simple way to do what your thinking, what are you going to do with that login form after the person logs in? Just keep displaying it on the entire site so people get confused and don’t know if they are logged in or not? Just that little part of the equation will require making some changes to either ASPProtect.NET or your application will have to have some logic built into it to stop displaying the login forum.


It sounds to me like your basically looking for a super simple 101 type deal that allows people to sign up for an event and you the admin can see that information? I’m guessing they can also log in again and check out their details and see what event they signed up for?

If that’s the case you’re trying to take a very sophisticated protection application and downgrade it into something that would be one heck of a lot easier to write all from scratch in about an hour.

Your not going to be able to “plug and play” a simple form into a page and turn that application as a magic universal login solution for a website, while its 100% possible to use the application that way if you choose, you need to check out the source code and plan your custom integration accordingly.



, Its one of the drwbacks of the encyrption.. sometimes.. VERY RARELY  it will produce things that cause a problem and will not work.

It is something I am doing more research on .., the txt file is only lke 624 kb...so I'm not sure,

Actually, your whole site is like that.

http://www.bones.myftpsite.net/rfamilystuff/

You should definetly fix that..
I can't help ya with it though. You'll have to figure it out.

I know ya can do it...

later

 

cwilliams38394.7738657407,

OK, well, that error is pretty self explanatory really. There isn't anything else it could mean.

What you showed me in that screen shot all looked correct, but still permissions to that file just can't be correct. The paths are correct. The path to the file looks correct. The ASPNET (ASP.NET) account looks correct.

I would try settings permissions directly on that XML file. Perhaps child permissions did not go through the way you intended. (the advanced tab must be used for that) If that doesn't work try giving ASPNET and Everyone full permissions on the file directly.

Possibly check the paths in the web.config file just for the heck of it.

Last case scenario, you can edit that XML file directly instead of using the screens in the application. Of course if that file does not have correct permission chances are other things like log files will give you issues as well.

That is all I can think of right now.

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I'm having another problem-hopefully it's a quick fix.

 

If i try to login as a user in the Http://localhost/aspprotectlogin.aspx page

 

it tries to go to a page: default.aspx    

 

Server Error in '/' Application.


The resource cannot be found.

Description: HTTP 404. The resource you are looking for (or one of its dependencies) could have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. Please review the following URL and make sure that it is spelled correctly.

Requested Url: /default.aspx

 

When i log in as admin from the aspprotectadmin/default.aspx that works fine...

where should the user be sent when they log in? Am i supposed to specify that or is it automatic? Why isnt it working for me? I dont believe i changed any settings that correspond to that either

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ya, thats basically what I was gonna do..

BTW.. if that other app is going crazy with an access database it could be the cause of all the slowdown with ASPProtect... what happens there is it is using so much database driver time that it robs other things that also access a database... so basically ASPProtect isn't asking its database for much but your other application and database are cripping that part of the system and causing it to run like crapola

If your other app is using a system dsn try changing it to use a dsn-less connection... it might actually help

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works fine now

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In a way your questions are confusing to me, but here is some information regardless.



Using Active Sever pages you can not protect entire folders. It is simply not possible. ASPProtect is Active Server Pages scripts so it can only protect individual ".asp" files.


If you are concerned about customers downloading the access database..

best practive is to store it in different folder name than it came in
best practive is to give the database .mdb file itself a different name
best practive is to change the password on the access database
best practice is to store it in a directory that is not part of your web if possible.. many of the better hosting companies have it set up so you actually can do that

the more of these things you can do the better..

And if you are really worried about security you should use a SQL Server database which nobody can download from your website under any conditions because your data lives in the sql server and unless they get the username/password to it they can not access it.

cwilliams38306.6367708333,

That's exactly what it was.

The site owner couldn't see their own ads because Norton was blocking anything with the word ad in it.

On another note: I changed the word 'ad' to 'listing' and got it to show even with Norton.

 

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The redirection feature isn't working as I exected.

If I clear a user's redirection_URL, they can navigate to any protected page on my website as expected.

However, if I set the user's redirection_URL to a protected page, they cannot login. More specifically, their browser just keeps displaying the login form while the browser's progress bar just increments ad infinitum.

If I set the user's redirection_URL to a NON-protected page, the user is directed to that non-protected page, but if they then try to navigate to a protected page, they are redirected back to the redirection_URL.

Is this the way the redirection feature is supposed to work?

My application requires that a user is directed to a protected page and from there, they can navigate to any page that they are allowed to go to.

What can I do?

,

Editing using Visual Studio.NET

Here are directions for editing the application using Visual Studio.NET
2002 or 2003 version.. either should work

Some of you are wondering why I didnt just give you the project files.
It is best you go through this process and really understand what is going on.
Also, I dont use VS 2002 so I wouldnt be able to give you project files that would work with that. Not to mention there is 100% chance my prject files wouldn't work for you anyway because of path differences and other things.


Anyway.. on with the instructions...

1st.. make sure IIS, ASP.NET, .NET Framework, and Visual Studio.NET are all installed correctly and up to date.

Open Visual Studio.NET

File -  New Project

Select a New Visual Basic ASP.NET web application.

give the new web to be created a name.. I called mine "aspprotectdotnet"

Hit Ok..

Now. once the project opens up we need to delete a few things in the solution explorer window.

So delete "webform1.aspx" , "deletestyles.css", "Global.asax", "AssemblyInfo.vb", and "web.config"

Basically all the files under the project...

Now... you should have the aspprotect.net files unzipped somewhere on you hard drive...

open that folder and select all the files and folders like so




Now drag those selected files and folders to the solution explorer window of Visual Studio.NET right on to the name of the web. In my case "aspprotectdotnet"

It might say this folder already contains a folder names Bins.. just tell it to copy over and continue on any prompts like that.

You'll notice your project is now populated.

Open up the references tab in the solution explorer window as we need to add some references to the dlls in the bin folder of this project. This is needed so the compile process and function correctly.

Right click on references.. click add reference
Then browse....browse on your hard drive to the location of the new web and the bin folder within it. 

In my case... "C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\aspprotectnet\bin"

Choose "aspprotectlicense.dll"

Hit open...

Now do the same thing again until you have added all the dlls in that bin folder to the references.. 

Now.. click add-references again and this time choose
"system.management" from the choices in the .NET tab

Once all of that is done your references should look like this




Now in the Visual Studio.NET menu system up top..

Choose Build - Build Solution

If you did everything right you will see something like this in the build window


------ Build started: Project: aspprotectdotnet, Configuration: Debug .NET ------

Preparing resources...
Updating references...
Performing main compilation...
Building satellite assemblies...

---------------------- Done ----------------------

Build: 1 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 skipped


You now have the visual studio side of things all set up.

To make the project actually run we now have to set some permissions and edit the web.config file.

Using windows explorer browse to the web the app is in. Right click on the "_database" folder and give that folder and all the child folders within it. Modify permissions for both the Anonymous webserver account and the ASPNET account. These accounts might not show up until you dig into the advanced tab and click find now to show all the accounts on the machine.

Permissions screen looks like this...



Once that is done go back the solution explorer window in visual studio.

Open the docs folder.. right click on "sysdiag.aspx" and choose view in browser.

It should complie the project again.. and then run that page in either the internal or external browser depending on how you have that set up.

That page will report back path information.
 "BTW.. for security reasons this page should be removed from any production server after installation is complete.. this is very important"
In my case it looks like this.

Probabale AppRootPhysicalPath
c:\inetpub\wwwroot\aspprotectdotnet

Probabale AppRootUrlPath
http://localhost/aspprotectdotnet

Probabale Path to Access Database
c:\inetpub\wwwroot\aspprotectdotnet\_database\aspprotectnet2 002.mdb

Now we need to edit the web.config file... your going to need to know some of the path information above.

In solution explorer double click on web.config.

Now edit the AppRootPhysicalPath, AppRootUrlPath, and CN keys accordingly.

In my case they will look like this.

<!-- PATHS USED BY THE SYSTEM -->
<add key="AppRootPhysicalPath" value="c:\inetpub\wwwroot\aspprotectdotnet" />
<add key="AppRootUrlPath" value="http://localhost/aspprotectdotnet" />

<!-- MICROSOFT ACCESS KEY -->
<add key="Cn" value="Driver={Microsoft Access Driver (*.mdb)};Dbq= c:\inetpub\wwwroot\aspprotectdotnet\_database\aspprotectnet2 002.mdb;Uid=admin;Pwd=" />

Now.. because our web is really not in the root of our virtual directory which starts at "inetpub/wwwroot" we need to edit another tag in this file.

Find the forms tag near the bottom.

<forms name=".aspprotect~net" loginUrl="/aspprotectlogin.aspx" protection="All" timeout="60" path="/" />

Change it to say this

<forms name=".aspprotect~net" loginUrl="/aspprotectdotnet/aspprotectlogin.aspx" protection="All" timeout="60" path="/" />

Notice tha part in bold that we added.

Now, you may also want to check the temp license key info while you are in that file and make sure it is not expired but I am not going to get into that here.

Now save and close that file and do a compile again.

In solution explorer open up the "aspprotectadmin" folder.
Right click on default.aspx and click browse

You should see the login prompt in your web browser..

Log in with   

admin
temp

all lower case

You should see the users screen of the application,

Click on the system info tab up in the top left... make sure all those paths are correct and save it.

Go to the settings page of the admin area. Make sure all those paths/settings are correct and save it.

Congratulations... you just set up a visual studio web project from scratch and our now ready to edit and compile an advanced web application.

From here on your on your own, but feel free to ask questions in the forums as you will probably get help from myself or others who own the software.


One last thing... because we are not in the true root of the web on the development machine the examples in the example folder will need the reference to the "protectpage.ascx" file modified before they will work

It will need to go from

Src="/protectpage.ascx"

 

to

 

Src="/aspprotectdotnet/protectpage.ascx"


If this app was installed in the true root of a domain on a real webserver.. you would not have to edit the forms tag in the web config file or change the paths in the examples as they would be correct the way they came

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yes, like macnap says.... you have to protect your ".asp" pages the way the directions tell you to...

and like in the "example" protected pages we provide

or they will not be protected and nothing will happen as far as ASPProtect goes

I guess I just didnt understand what you were talking about

 

,

if that account isnt there thats normal because if it doesn't have any permissions for that folder so it wouldnt be listed

you simply dig into the menus a liitle deaper and find it then add it.

cwilliams38417.6984606481,

When using this code:

<!------- ASPBanner Ad code ------------->
<script language="JavaScript"> var code = '';
var now = new Date();
var nIndex = now.getTime();
document.write('<s' + 'cript src=" http://www.poconocommuter.com/aspbanner/injectbanner.asp?Ban nerZone=6&nocache=' + nIndex + '">');
document.write('</' + 's' + 'cript>');
</script>
<script language="JavaScript">document.write(jscode);</script& gt;
<!--------- End ASPBanner Ad code --------------->

I receive an error that jscode is undefined. The banner will not display.

Any ideas how to fix this?

 

,

I'll send you something..

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sure and thats probably what you should do... that pure asp upload thing must not be able to handle the size of your import file... another thing which can very .. also some versions of IIS require registry changes to upload bigger files via asp code alone

, I tried the iFrame method that you have shown, and it works great!!!!,

Sounds to me like you got some bad databases or something. Or your trying to open a database with too old of a version of msaccess.. not sure

Everything is stored in one database. And yes there is more than just the users table.

Also,  removing the "temp" password should be a piece of cake.

Email me for a new copy of the download file ? Use the contact from on the cjwsoft site. Please tell me your order details as well so I know who you are.

 

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Hi,

No, only ".asp" files can be protected.  It is the nature of Forms Based Authentication when using web based scripting technologies whether those scripts be ".cgi", ".asp", ".php", or whatever.

To protect entire direcotries at once you really need to run your own webserver and use NTFS permissions and user accounts..... or if something special is installed on the server there may be ways to do it as well. That usually isn't going to happen under a shared hosting account but there are special authentication products for such a thing that some hosting companies do purchase and allow their hosting customers to use.

Using aspprotect we do give working examples of ways to stream and partially protect images and downloads while a user is logged in to an ".asp" page.

Also, any ".htm" pages can simply be renamed to ".asp" if you need to protect them. Links to each other need to be updated of course because of the extension change.

In my opinion the truth of the matter is most high end sites use Forms Based Authentication with scripts. Not directory protection as it is fairly primitive/old school as well as sometimes being confusing for the users of the site because of how the login window from the server often gets stuck behind the browser.. etc etc

If you have a lot of pages in a site that you need to add protection code to then if can often be helpful to use a good Multiple file search and replace program to carefully add the protection code to the top of the source code of the pages. There are even multiple file search and replace programs that can rename extensions which can be helpful for large sites.

For images and graphics you want protect you have to do some work and set up and intelligent system for yourself.

Lastly whether you use https:// or not is no concern to ASPProtect as it works the same under https:// as it does under http://

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Right,  I've done that.  My concern is that it will time out again while I'm trying to import the file.

The import/export manager does not show up under the users tab when I log in normally.  I have to pull up the page in frontpage and then preview it a browser to get it to show.

,

An email I just received from eastcoastguy.. to keep this thread up to date

 

 

Your quick reply was greatly appreciated... I removed the password and was able to use a DSN...I will look into a DSN-less connection later..once i get this working !
Cheers
 
eastcoastguy
 
 
 
 
cwilliams38146.6165509259, either that or send me your encyrption keys and the exact password entered that causes the problem and I will try to reproduce the behavior here,

I dont know. Perhaps a fresh installation in a new folder would be a good idea as well if possible..

for troubleshooting sake..

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sometimes those emails take a bit... all depend on wht you are using to send them and whether a pickup directory is involved

as for the other I do not know.. PM me the site details I can look

if it is a 2003 server parent paths must of course be enabled.. its a requirement of aspclassifieds

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thanks!! the file took care of the extra slash. I also fixed the problem by modifying the permissions.

dazed

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I have connected to countless DB's using my own applications written in dreamweaver and have tested them on my own server and also my web facing one.  BUT this seems to be different.  no matter what I try I still get this error.

[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver]General error Unable to open registry key 'Temporary (volatile) Jet DSN for process 0x440 Thread 0x6b0 DBC 0x1f995bc Jet'.

On both a windows 2000 server and also a windows 2003 server. Also using both DSN and DSN less connection and oledb.

Any help would be greatly apprectiated.

Thanks

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Hello Chris:

Let me run some more test if it's working on your end it should be on mine?  I have made some custom updates to the code but no in that area.

Thanks,
-
Ricardo

 

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