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Blog Entry: 3/25/2006 4:54:33 PM

I dont get it.. I am still looking into it..

I think this has something to do with your original experience when things would work and then not work.

something weird is going on
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that really does not make any sense...

I dont know what else to tell you as this really shouldn't be anything too difficult to sort out...

redirection based on criteria is not something aspprotect does by default... I try to help a bit... I've shown everyone how to do it in this thread...I know plenty of people doing it... I've done it myself... I know it works

let me ask you this... are you using ASPProtect 6 with the Option Pack ?
I assume you must be or you would not have the Groups feature ?
And you asked this question in the ASPProtect 6 section.

but then maybe your using 7.. I do not know

this should all work the same either way

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I am brought to a logon page in which I cannot access the page.  This must be due to the check_user_inc.asp include.  Without the include I get a blank page.

, They send an email?

Hope my spam killer didn't zap it...
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Upgrade from V6 to v7.x with an MSACCESS DATABASE

1st of all, backup your existing ASPProtect files and database before performing this upgrade. Please be really careful while performing this upgrade. Version 7.x  is a highly advanced application compared to any previous versions. CJWSoft under no circumstances is responsible if you lose information or have website downtime.

BOTTOM LINE: (PERFORM THIS UPGRADE AT YOUR OWN RISK)

To do this upgrade you're going to need to have the Microsoft Access Application.
To work with an Access .mdb file it can not be newer than the version of Microsoft Access you are running.

That being said, on with the upgrade..

Open you're existing Acccess Database up in Microsoft Access..
You should see this something like this.



By right clicking on then choosing rename
Rename "Users" to "ASPP_Users"
Rename "Groups" to "ASPP_Groups"

If you do not have a "Groups" table do not worry about it right now.

Now right click and DELETE the Config Table.
Yes, delete it..

You should now see this. (with or without the "Groups" table)



Now, right click on "ASPP_Users" and go into design view.
It should look like this.


Rename the "Password" field to "Old_Password"
Be sure to spell it perfectly using the Underscore
It will look like this.


Now scroll down to the bottom a bit It should look like this.



Now..

If you have a "Groups" Field... leave it alone
If you do not have a "Groups" Field add one and make it a memo field.

Now, we are going to add a few more new fields.

Add a field called "Redirection_URL" make it a "text" field with 150 field size
Add a field called "PayPal_Subscriber_ID" make it a "text" field with 100 field size
Add a field called "Newsletter" and make it a yes/no field
Add a field called "Password" and make it a "text" field with 100 field size

It should now look like this.
(you do not need to worry about the field descriptions.. that part is optional and only seen when working on the database)



Now close that window and save the changes..

Your now going to open up another Access Database while still leaving the one you have on your screen open. You going to open up one of the new databases that came with v7.x. This database has some info we are simply going to copy and paste.

You'll want to open it and put it side by side on your desktop like so.
(the old database is on the left.. the new one is on the right)



Now, for the fun part.

On the new database to the right.. right click on the "ASPP_Config" table and pick "Copy"

Then move your mouse over to the old database on the left. Right click in the open white area and click "paste"

It will ask you for a database name. Type in "ASPP_Config"
Leave "Structure and Data" checked and hit OK

Your old database on the left should now have a nice new "ASPP_Config" table.

OK, now for the "ASPP_Groups" table

If you already have a "ASPP_Groups" table in your old database you are done.

If you do not have one your going to copy and paste the table from the New Database to your old database just like we just did with the "ASPP_config" table.

Your old database should now look like this.



Now, you are done upgrading your database from within Microsoft Access.

The existing passwords still have to be encrytped and moved from the "Old_Password" to the "Password" field

To that we have a special page we run in the application that will take care of that.

So, for now... go install the application, but using the database we just created.
Follow these instructions for the most part...
http://support.cjwsoft.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=181& ; ;PN=1

When you get to the part where you finally get into the admin area and need to make an admin account you will notice that your existing user database is there but none of the users have passwords if you look at them in the edit screen.

That is normal. Simply do what the instructions say and create and admin account using a username that does not exist..

Then log off... then back in as that new admin account. If that works you are ready to convert the passwords.

This part is very easy.

You want to run a special page via the browser.

http://www.mysite.com/password_admin/convert_to_encrypted.asp

Replacing the part in blue with your website info.

Once you get the page running you will see a login prompt and one form field just like before with the "get_me_in.asp" page

You will need to paste the "PasswordEncryptionKey" value that you used in the "config_inc.asp" file in the form field and hit enter.

If all goes well you will see a page telling you to click here to encrypt the passwords and copy them over.

So do what it says... dont click more than once and wait.

Eventually it should say it is finished. So go log in to the admin area of the system using the new admin account.

Now edit some users but dont save... you want to see if the passwords are showing up. If they are the conversion worked. If you see nothing or a garbled mess it did not work and you made a mistake during this whole process.

If things went well backup and delete the conversion file below.

http://www.mysite.com/password_admin/convert_to_encrypted.asp

You do not need it anymore.

Once you are positive every thing is running smoothly and everyone's passwords are ok you can go in and delete the "Old_Password" field as well.



If things didnt go well.. try again from scratch and go slowly.
If they still dont go well get ahold of us for help.

We are here to help, but if you really want us to we can be hired to do the conversion.

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Sounds to me like you got some bad databases or something. Or your trying to open a database with too old of a version of msaccess.. not sure

Everything is stored in one database. And yes there is more than just the users table.

Also,  removing the "temp" password should be a piece of cake.

Email me for a new copy of the download file ? Use the contact from on the cjwsoft site. Please tell me your order details as well so I know who you are.

 

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here is a thread that may help you if this is what you were getting at


http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo389-1.htm

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ok...

you got problems if you cant import a file created by the system..

You using SQL or MSACCESS and do any of the users data have apostraphes in it ?

, Hey, I thought I'd share this tip with the ASPProtect community...

If you'd like to remove, modify, or add fields to the "Users" view in the password_admin default.asp page, it's really easy to do. Well, at least it was for me. I'm using an MS Access database, by the way.

For me, I don't need "Company" info, but I do need last access and # of times accessed displayed. Therefore, I had to change the default page in three areas:

In /password_admin/default.asp, go to about line 185 or so, where you see stuff like:

[code]<td valign="bottom"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" size ="2"><b>First&nbsp;Name& lt;/b>&nbsp;</font></td> [/code]

OK, those are the column headings. Each one corresponds to a column from your USERS table in your database. There are two more areas to consider, both of which appear immediately after this section.

The next section has statements that look like this:

[code]<td valign="bottom"><a href="<% =THISPAGE %>?SORTBY=First_Name+ASC&MyPageSize=<% =MyPageSize %>&Keyword=<% =Server.URLEncode(Keyword)%>"><img border="0" src="../images/sort_ascending.gif" Alt="Sort Ascending"></a><a href="<% =THISPAGE %>?SORTBY=First_Name+DESC&MyPageSize=<% =MyPageSize %>&Keyword=<% =Server.URLEncode(Keyword)%>"><img border="0" src="../images/sort_descending.gif" Alt="Sort Descending"></a></td>[/code]

See the "First_Name" items? The first is for an ascending sort, the second for a descending. This particular line corresponds to the code snippet immediately above it. But all this does is handle the sorting. For the actual data, look lower for this stuff:

[code]    <td bgcolor="<% = Cellbgcolor %>"><font face="Arial" size="1">&nbsp;<%= CmdListUsers("First_Name") %& gt;&nbsp;</font></td> [/code]

It's a good ways down, so don't be impatient if you don't see it in 10 lines from the end of the last mentioned section. This stuff handles the display of the data from the database (where else ya gonna get data, anyway?)...

Now, to remove a field, you need to find the three sets that go with that data. The ascending/descending sort is potentially the trickiest, because it's the longest set of data and can take a number of lines. Just clear it from the start td to the end /td and you'll be fine.

To *add* a field, copy and paste the code from an existing field and modify it. In the first one, the column title, you can type whatever you want to describe your info. Nobody but you and your admins will see it. For the next two sections, though, you need to get the correct column heading from the USERS table and use that to correct the lines in the copied code you pasted in.

For example, when I added a column to show the number of times a user logged in, I copied the above snippets and pasted them in where I felt the column I needed should be. Then, in the first one, I changed "First Name" to "Logins". In the ascending/descending snippet, I changed First_Name to Counter. Same for the last snippet.

The result? A new column, showing the number of logins my users were successful with.

Of course, before you experiment, back up your existing default.asp file, JUST IN CASE.

Have fun!

, Thank you!!

Yippee!

Laura
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New Power Supply and a new (CPU Fan/Heat Sink) seemed to do the the trick. She's running like a champ now...

Hopefully it keeps doing so. Only time will tell.

It she's stable I can get back to designing some new software.

cwilliams38296.9772800926, That's because when the page rebuilds, it uses the default number of users per page setting. You'd have to modify that default setting to have it do things differently.  I used to have mine set to 500 users, until I got past 300... then it wasn't fun to show all users on the page anymore.  I now like 10 per page and searching for specific users as needed.

But that's me. If you hack a COPY of your default.asp file (with the original backed up as above), you can get the value set to one you prefer.

If you want me to find the value, post and I'll look for it later on. If you want to find it yourself, happy hunting! Just be sure to have a backup in case you do the wrongest thing possible in your haxxoring.
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I'am in the process of modifing registration and tieing in paypal. When I get live I will send you a link. Thanks for help.

John

, Ahhh, I see it, thanks that was the ticket.

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it is an email server/setting issue most likely

your email server probably requires outgoing authentication or something like that and that is why internal emails can be sent to but nothing else

its something along those lines

this will help you see the real error instead of the generic 500
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo11-1.htm

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yeah.. thats an old graphic probably only seen in a few places.

it is not on the main site
http://www.cjwsoft.com/
or here
http://www.aspprotect.com/
or here
http://www.aspbanner.com/
or here
http://www.aspclassifieds.com/
or here
http://www.aspphotogallery.com/

but I am sure there are a couple of pages left over still using it like the aspvendor and asplistings pages.. etc    I am aware of it, just been too busy to go change them and I didn't consider it a big deal

2003 servers are NT based anyway

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Its still not there as labeled 'internet guest'.  There's a 'guest' and a host of others.  Is there a way to identify it as the proper guest account to use with ASPProtect?

Also, looking through support documentation, I see other possibilities it could be (http://www.powerasp.com/content/hintstips/permissions.asp).  Is there a way of telling which the problem is and whether we use a dsn connection or not?

The error we are getting is

 Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80004005'

[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver]General error Unable to open registry key 'Temporary (volatile) Jet DSN for process 0x1340 Thread 0x17a4 DBC 0x162becc Jet'.

/aspprotect/scripts/populate_config_variables_inc.asp, line 11

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Need to clarify something..

Your talking about the page where a new user registers right ?
Your not talking about adding a new user from the admin area ?

Either way under no circumstances do I see anything like you are saying happening nor has any other ASPProtect user ever mentioned this probem.

I am going to need to see your site and see this happening. It just makes no sense the way you are describing it.

Also. did you edit the registration page code in any way. If so please revert back to an original copy to ensure this is not some sort of problem introduced by editing the code.

cwilliams38164.8115046296,

(Password_Email_Confirmation_Mod) for ASPProtect Version 7.x

This will change the basic registration pages so that the email address and password entered must be confirmed when signing up. This eliminates the auto generated password during signup.

Some may prefer it working this way.

Directions:
Back up your existing ASPProtect installation.

Copy the two new files into your "users" folder

"register.asp"
"add_new_account.asp"

2005-12-01_182201_Password_Email_Confirmation_Mod.zip

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Hi Chris,

We installed our key onto the live server.

However, since our temp key has expired, we can't access our application on our development machine because the login won't work anywhere except on the live server.

Of course we can access the application on dev, if we remove the aspprotect tags, but if we need to log in to do something unique to the user, then we have a problem.

Can we get another temp key from you? And would there be a better long term solution to this debug/maintanence issue?

--JP

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humm, did you edit any of the registration code ?
this is not something anyone has ever mentioned and the aspprotect 6 code has not been changed in over a year ?

can I see where there is happening ?
I may need ftp or frontpage access to the server in order to troubleshoot unless you can provide me with more details here.

thx..

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Thank you so so much! I went to the admin area and changed the email component from CDOSYS (using remote server) to CDOSYS (using port 25 forwarding) and all is working great now!

Again, thanks!

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Hello,

If you are using ASPProtect Version 7 it is possible because version 7 supports html emailing. In any other version it would require some custom coding to add html email support. You would have to sort it out by experimenting and editing the emailing code. All the email methods have documentation on the web in some form or another showing how to send html emails.

Also,
sometimes depending on the email component being used and the email client reading the email a link in a text based email will get hyperlinked automatically. For example outlook usually will do that, but it doesn't always in other situations.

Lastly, we have special upgrade pricing should anyone want to upgrade to ASPProtect Version 7. It really has a ton of great features.

Best Regards,

Chris Williams
www.CJWSoft.com

cwilliams38415.6414236111, Actually quite well.  I have this problem worked out and it actually isn't to bad.  But  now I am getting some strange error messages.  I will start another post.

Cheers
Roy
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Well, I assumed I'd be able to tweak this thing but it is all so intertwined it doesn't pay to mess with any of the files. Hence, I'm going to have buy a different system only a week or two after buying the unlimited version here.

As I leave I want to give you some impressions here. While the system is low-cost, the 99 dollar version is missing a few pieces that I think would bring the value to 99. It is one thing to talk about the speed/performance, but to a degree that's hard to measure, and to anyone with web advertising on their site, performance will always run second to potential site income.

It definitely needs a user interface and registration for advertisers, and it definitely needs a single variables file for changing the hundreds of variables for which there is no control. I had to search on my own just to change the look and feel.

Lack of multi-zone support is a serious drawback. I would submit that anyone with a serious website needs it, and will gladly pay you 139 over 99 for just that one feature.

Take them or leave them, they are just suggestions.

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OK, I figured out the problem.  Not running ASP becasue the pages are not saved as ASP but rather HTM... OK so I am smart like a tractor but strong like an ox.

cwilliams38229.9128819444, Attached is a SQL script to create the ASPProtect Database with the Option Pack Changes already applied. This lets you create the database in one step and you wont have to make the option pack changes as they are already there.

This only applies to people using MSSQL and doing a new installation.

This scripts are run via SQL Enterprise Manager.

You make a new database then run this script on it in query manager.

2004-06-14_180056_aspprotect_w_option_pack.zip cwilliams38152.7522569444, ok, now were getting somewhere

I didn't know you imported from another system,

chances are you are missing field information that an ASPProtect user requires.

Start off from scratch with a new aspprotect database... create a new user and look at the info that gets entered by default for every field in the database

make sure when you import a user that you mimic it all

dont import directly using access because the passwords will not get converted to encrypted versions of themselves correctly.. and the whole process will be usesless as no passwords will be correct

Use the import feature built into ASPProtect.. because it is smart enough to take the clear text passwords and encrypt them accordingly

if you want to know a correctly formatted import file needs to look like make one and check it out

do one user at a time and make sure you can log in to an example protected page till you get it right...

once you get that working do them all

Thats really the best advice I can give you. ,

1) Does everything, i.e. every user, every category, every product, etc., get stored in just one single database, or are there multiple databases at work and are linked to one another?  I am asking because there is only one table in the DB, and it is the "Users" table.  So I am presuming that there must be other databases that are linked to the DB.  Is this correct? 

2) Are user-level security permissions utilized in the sample Access DB that is shipped with the software?  I am asking because we cannot seem to remove the "temp" password no matter what we try, and this is the only reason I can think of. 

, The mass picyure import does not work like that. It involves no uploading component.

Only an admin can do a mass import on an album and they have to ftp the images into the site in that upload folder before they go do the mass import thing. ,

The parent paths things really should not be an issue.

This is an article from the troubleshooting section of the documentation that takes care of it all very easily.

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo162-1.htm


As for a good host that knows ASP and does not mess around when you ask for something. I always recommened www.alentus.com

 

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DONE IT

DON'T WORRY!

DON'T ASK HOW, BUT NOW IT WORKS!!

THANK YOU IF IT WAS YOU, OR THANK YOU GOD IF IT WAS ME!!!

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ALL FIXED.. tested with real paypal accounts and a live system
works perfectly

THIS FIX IS ONLY FOR PAYPAL SUBSCRIPTIONS

Download this file "ipn.asp" and put it in the "paypal_sub_signup" folder
2005-03-10_164645_aspprotect_subscription_fix.zip

Basically somehow an older version of the this file was in the original download archive.

I am VERY SORRY

Anyone who purchased ASPProtect 7 before March 11, 2005 should download this fix.

cwilliams38421.7018055556, I just started using ASPJpeg, and i used the "generate_new_thumbnails.asp" to create new thumbs of all of the existing albums.  It generates the thumbs just fine, but they don't get picked up by the "Randomly Selected Photo" section.  If I upload new pics, they will show up in the random photo area.

So, it reads the new upload thumbs, but not the newly generated ones using your .asp page. 

Is there anything I can do?    ,

Actually, your whole site is like that.

http://www.bones.myftpsite.net/rfamilystuff/

You should definetly fix that..
I can't help ya with it though. You'll have to figure it out.

I know ya can do it...

later

 

cwilliams38394.7738657407, Glad your getting the hang of it.

no difference as far as that goes. It is just different ways to reference the server side include file and it's location on the server cwilliams38457.6019675926,

[QUOTE=cwilliams]
Is that a real term or just something you named it cause they have like a zillion people using that SQL server?[/QUOTE]

yeah thats it, you buy into a part of the sql server so it's an sql server hotel...

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Sorry, should have added,  if i change the connection string, i can also get this...

[Microsoft][ODBC Driver Manager] Data source name not found and no default driver specified

, What application you talking about ? I'll assume ASPProtect. In the future please specify what application you are talking about.

ASPProtect 7 already has protection that is quite effective. The no concurrent login feature which will not let the same username under a different ip log in at the same time. Meaning if someone gives out their info they will screw themslves over because eventually they won't be able to log in. Only one unique ip at a time can log in so even of 100 people know the info it won't really do anyone much good except the lucky one that logged in 1st and stayed logged in.  The username/password will eventually become more and more useless as more and people know it.

In addition to that is is a good idea to monitor the daily logs and single out a user you see logging in a lot. The more ips you see for that user the more chance it is multiple people logging in and you should take action. ,

Flash Code Generator

Until I have time to make one I suggest using the one on the banmanpro support site as it is pretty nice.

http://www.banmanpro.com/support/flashgenerator.asp

 

cwilliams38291.6146875,


Timecard Entry: 3/25/2006 4:54:33 PM

various phone calls, voice mail, email, Helping Ed and Randy across the street at old IMC facilities to repair the frame router., Lunch, Finishing 6 tasks for USA1net site given to me from Randy, Telephone conference with Jim Gilbert, ssh died on ns2.gisco.net......reneabled telnet into the box....got ssh going again and then disabled telnet once again., E-mails, voice-mails, phone calls (throughout the day)., Lunch, voicemail, Alpha prompt computers, research and phone calls w/ APC and Randy, Installing costguard on Leigh's computer, misc admin, talk to randy about streaming, NORTHCOUNTRYORTHO.COM REWORKED NAVIGATION MADE SPECIALS GRAPHICAL TEXT SPECIFIC FOR EACH PAGE ON 6 PAGES AND HYPERLINKED 88 HOTSPOTS, corporate channel partner brochure and instruction booklet, enter bills. account bal. discrepency: WFRY & WCIZ, mmmm tasty tidbits of nourishment, Wendy from Kinane called, MAC not connecting to router, Working on Listing History Feature on SOFTMLS2 site Timmy helped me quite a bit with parsing code that I was having trouble with., went to get Paul lunch, Answered the online issues, took more calls and then straightened up the desks, Troubleshooting 8300, resetting modems on 788-5373., back to Clayton, check modems, same as above, Talked to Fred about the MBO spreadsheet (data not carrying over from cell to cell as it should), met with Mikes dive shop, domain name, hosting, Couple questions via e-mail, Steady moring but to busy. Quality checked sign ups, cancellations, reports, callbacks from voicemail, checked emails, answering phone. , few calls, radlog expired users check,

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