Just to put an end to this thread here is the solution for anyone reading.

The permissions were ok.

The data connection string never got edited in the "dataconn_inc.asp" file so it was invalid the whole time.

Once that was corrected the application ran.

So really this whole thread was over not following the directions and not editing the data connection string... 

I have a solution for asp already but thanks anyway. Is there a good book or other learning tool I can purchase that you might know about? I would know where to start about how create a timed subscription in .NET.

But can you guess as to why the following might be happening:

1) The password is still "temp", and we verified that by checking dataconn_inc.asp ; 2) People are able to place new ads, etc. ; 3) We then download the DB.  Sometimes we are able to open up the DB just downloaded with the password "temp", but only see the USERS table.  At other times, we cannot open the same DB with any password, and get a "password not valid" message even when using the password "temp".

So what can the problem be?

its a text file   you just edit it with notepad..  if ya mess it up ya put an original copy back in

no biggie either way

jump in there..

I just showed ya exactly what to change.. its a no brainer man
This is simple source code. It's meant to be edited and hacked.

The only reason I warn you is so you can't blame me later on if it effects something

I am just trying to help

If ya dont like that solution why not just use periods for the first name field.. or a dash or something... then nobody will really see it

or maybe store the company name in the first_name field

seems like clever things to try without changing the code..

good luck...

ya, thats basically what I was gonna do..

BTW.. if that other app is going crazy with an access database it could be the cause of all the slowdown with ASPProtect... what happens there is it is using so much database driver time that it robs other things that also access a database... so basically ASPProtect isn't asking its database for much but your other application and database are cripping that part of the system and causing it to run like crapola

If your other app is using a system dsn try changing it to use a dsn-less connection... it might actually help

Ok nevermind that... i got by that wasn't paying attention...

The problem is even before this which i didn't know until now.

I placed the protect tag in a page i called members.aspx

When i go to this page is says ACCESS DENIED etc etc etc.

When i go to login to view this page i get the error..which i DIDNT know because i assumed it was working. This is the error im getting:

Server Error in '/MAP' Application.

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The resource cannot be found.

Description: HTTP 404. The resource you are looking for (or one of its dependencies) could have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.  Please review the following URL and make sure that it is spelled correctly.

Requested URL: /map/users/aspprotectlogin.aspx

btw it says /map because that is the subfolder within the root folder

Hi,

Sorry, but the way the system works you can not call an individual banner like that. It just not something the system was meant to do.

If you wanted a specific banner to show up at all times you would have to make an individual banner and a zone just for that.

After looking at your site since you have so many banners there I dont know if that is the greatest option for you. It would also put a lot of stress of the Version 7 software because it is not really meant to call so many banners zones at one time on one page.

If you could live with tracking clicks on the home page but not displays I would suggest making banners for the home page in one zone. Then hard coding the banner images into your homepage like you already do but linking to the tracking part of aspbanner instead of where they would usually link to. That way you could at least track clicks and there owuld be no performance issues.

for example.. one of the images might link to
http://www.poconocommuter.com/aspbanner/banner_redirect.asp? Banner_ID=4

which would track clicks for you.. and then send then wherever they are supposed to go

Than you 

I'm happy after changing to XML parser for two of the ads. Later I'll change the other codes to XML, never to use iframe again!

perhaps the filesystem object is disabled on the server ?
or some sort of script blocking is running and causing a problem ?

other than that I can take a look if you put it up on a live server.

I am confused.

Humm, how did ASPBanner 8 come with your purchase of ASPProtect ? That is not something I am aware of or something I do. Please provide more information on how you obtained ASPBanner 8. If I gave yu a copy for some reason please refresh my memory so I can go look up th emails about it. I need to know you have a valid license.

Now, as for the two not working together and the login screens messing with each other. I am even more confused. Tell me more as I just do not understand what you did ? ASPBanner has it's own user database and login system so there is no reason you should be mixing the two together as far as logins go. The two applications can certainly be in the same web together and not bother each other. ASPBanner can certainly serve banners to any pages you protect with ASPProtect or don't protect, but you certainly should not be protecting any ASPBanner code with ASPProtect code.  ASPBanner already has code in it to do that. If that is the case don't do that. ASPProtect is not meant to protect code that already has a login system. That should just be obvious as far as I am concerned and hopefully you dintn't try to do that.

(you said you just put the directory in there but there must be more too this than that)

But again, tell me more. I can't really know everything  ??

I just dont see how your ASPProtect pages could be effected by ASPBanner unless you really did something wacky like included the ASPBanner "check_user_inc.asp" instead of the one that comes with ASPProtect or overwrote it... etc ect

If in the same web aspprotect can be wherever and aspbanner needs to be in a folder called "aspbanner". There should be no conflicts under normal use and the two will essentially run seperate of one another.

Can you incorporate a secure log in within the scripting.  I would like the account information to be secure without having to have the whole site using running through a secure (https://) path.  If this is possible, the scripting is perfect!

I wonder why the banners in ASPBanner 8.1 are moving from one place to another when opening my site www.helserevyen.no in a Mac Safari browser and click on refresh?

Can you take a look at my site and response?

and the permissions, how exactly were they set ?
I find a lot of customers think they are setting permissions correctly when they really are not. That's why I wrote that long article on the subject.

As you probably know a data connection is a very low level thing. It is the foundation of any ASP application that communicates with a database. Unfortunatly it sometimes takes a while to get the hang of setting them up without issue.

Everything must be perfect.. the ODBC drivers must be up to date, folder permission are critical, sometimes you must use a new version of the access database.. etc etc etc  The errors and things that happen when all these things are not perfect and not helpful as you have found out.

I would suggest you download and get ASPTest from CJWSoft running before you go any further. It is designed to be as simple as possible and helps get a hang of the database setup process.

Actually, your whole site is like that.

http://www.bones.myftpsite.net/rfamilystuff/

You should definetly fix that..
I can't help ya with it though. You'll have to figure it out.

I know ya can do it...

later

More info on the groups session variable.

Session("Groups") will contain the ID numbers of whatever groups the user is a part of.
It does not store the descriptive name of that group. It will show the same data that is actually stored in the "Groups" field in the database.

for example it might hold a value like this

*2*,*5*,*9*

meaning a user is part of groups 2, 5, and 9

so if you wanted to check to see if a user was part of a particular group you would do something like this

<%
If InStr(Session("Groups"),"*9*") Then
     Response.Write("You are a member of group 9")
End If
%>


Taking this even further, if you really wanted to get a particular group's name or description you would have to query the database like so. In this case we ask it the name and description for group 9.

 Group_ID=9
 Set ConnPasswords = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
 ConnPasswords.Open ConnectionString
 Set cmdTemp = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Command")
 Set CmdEditGroup = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Recordset")
 cmdTemp.CommandText = "SELECT " & tbl_label_groups & ".* FROM " & tbl_label_groups & " WHERE (Group_ID = " & Group_ID & ")"
 cmdTemp.CommandType = 1
 Set cmdTemp.ActiveConnection = ConnPasswords
 CmdEditGroup.Open cmdTemp, , 0, 1
  
 Group_Name = CmdEditGroup("Group_Name")
 Group_Desc = CmdEditGroup("Group_Desc")

The ASP error on the home page has been solved -There was aproblem with the path that was including the home page file and we fixed it.

However the error on the member page remains - any ideas/suggestions would be appreciated. This is the error:

Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80004005'

[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver]General error Unable to open registry key 'Temporary (volatile) Jet DSN for

process 0x748 Thread 0xad8 DBC 0x214734c Jet'.

/aspboard/forum/global.asp, line 15

I getting a strange error with ASPProtect.

 Microsoft OLE DB Provider for SQL Server error '80040e14'

Unclosed quotation mark before the character string '¾_^Ö'.

/aspprotect/check_user_inc.asp, line 114

If I check the database directly "¾_^Ö" is the exact string for the password.

Any Ideas

I just installed ASPProtect on my site. The instructions were definately on the target. Very very good instructions.

But... Isn't there always a but ???

I needed to setup my site with MS SQL and it is hosted so I don't have Enterprise Manager. I tried the web based Enterprise Manager and any other one I could find. But, I kept getting errors when trying to use the SQL Script.

I finally had to go back to my work where we do have the licenses and get an SQL Admin to use Enterprise Manager to run the script and it worked finally.

I don't know if this is a common problem ??? But, maybe you would want to look at the SQL Server script or make a different version that would work with the Web Based SQL manager.

Thanks

This is a great article from my old powerasp.com site.
Connections And Server Database Permissions

Hello,

Thank you for the feedback.

I would like to point out the requirements of the application however as this is something I am aware of and do address.

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo165-1.htm

These requirments are directly linked to from the ASPProtect v7 web page, so its not like I dont try to tell people the deal regarding SQL server.

Basically I only have the resources to provide scipts and instructions for using SQL Enterprise Manager and that is all I officially support. I also personally think anyone using a SQL Server should be using SQL Enterprise Manager because later on down the road there are things you may want to do such as backups/etc etc

Take Care,

Chris Williams
www.CJWSoft.com

5300 users honetly wouldn't even phase the database or the code... even with MSAccess...you got other problems and I can say that with 150% certainty

my guess is permissions on the database folder are not quite right or the odbc drivers have issues.. something along those lines..

access databases act up when full modify permissions are not given to the folder they are in.... they can also act up if the odbc drivers are very new and you are not using a newer version of the access database such as 2002 version as opposed to a 97 or 2000 version

using a system dsn as opposed to a dsn-less connection can also cause BIG issues. always use a DSN-LESS connection

you can also have big problems if just the database file is given permissions instead of the whole directory it is in

also, the script timeout has nothing to do with it.. if that is happening something is wrong with the data connection like I said... no amount of changing timeouts is going to cure it...

how permissions are correctly set
http://www.powerasp.com/content/new/windows_2003_server_and_ permissions.asp

why system dsn's with access databases are bad news
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo9-1.htm

I know it worked at 1st but it can still be related to all of this because when permissions are not perfect databases will work ok for a while and then act up. it all has to do with the temporay lock files that access creates and deletes on a regualr basis

Please be aware folks..

This file is not provided by CJWSoft. Though this may work very well use of it is not supported in any way. We have not tested it.

This user is not using the option pack so this file will not be compatible with anyone using that because it does not have support for groups and some of the other new features.

Regardless..we appretiate users sharing ideas and solutions that they have come up with.

I have reviewed the permissions requirements for folders from the support documentation but do not see the 'internal guest' account shown in our system to allow internet access to read/write to the access database. 

How else can we locate the proper account (or is it possible there is none?) to use to allow permissions to access the Data directory if it doesn't show up as 'Internal Guest'?

how you connecting... lets see the connection string...

could be permissions related too.. if they are not set correctly
(always give them to the folder, never just the mdb file)

Some of this might help...

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo11-1.htm

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo136-1.htm

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo56-1.htm

you may want to download some of the different versions of the access database from the support area and try connecting to them as you may have older odbc drivers on the server

You may also want to try to get ASPTest from our website working before you go any further