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Blog Entry: 3/25/2006 4:52:23 PM

Okay, hopefully I'm posting in the correct area this time.

Currently we are utilizing ASPProtect 7.x

When using the Newsletter function, many members are indicating they are not receiving email.  No evidence of email in SPAM folders.  Also, when checking with email provider, they insist it is not being filtered prior to delivery to member's email address.

The following message does appear when a newsletter is sent.

error '8004020f'

/newsite/ASPprotect/scripts/emailing_subs_inc.asp, line 124

Line 124 is the line of code to 'send' the emails.  We have approx. 860 members who are on the list to receive the newsletter emails.  I have no way of knowing how many are not getting the email. Based on anecdotal evidence, I'm guessing it could be as high as 20%.

We are using CDOSYS / SMTP authentication with a real external email with MX records. Our website is hosted by Cbeyond.  They insist it isn't at their end. (for what it's worth)

Thanks for your assistance.

NPA

, Can I have the logon be in a top frame while having the protected pages displayed in a main frame?

Also, how will it behave if a user moves in between a protected page to a public page and back to the protected page again?
,



Does emailing work under the simplest scenario ? (directly from the users screen)

Thats the way to test it..

All that error means is whatever reason the settings you have chosen are not working. It could be the server. It could be what you chosen. (and yes I realize your pop info from outlook should probably work with the settings you chose)

Whenever I do installs I often have to try 3-5 different emailing scenarios before I come across one that works.

Each time making some changes and sending out test emails from the users screen until I get somewhere. Often time getting a working example of how your Hosting Company wants you to send email from ASP is the info to get your hands on. (what method and settings)

In this case they may have blocked the usee of a remote server and want you to use some other settings for sending email from asp. A lot of times they put that info in their help system.

If I were you I would start by trying the other two CDOSYS options for starters, and then try the remote server option again but using "localhost" as the server, if none of those work consult your host for example code and settings to send email from asp. If you still have no luck I can help for sure.

Realize too when testing the emails may take a bit to arrive. A delay of sorts. Best to type in a quick note about which method you are trying in the email text. That way when you finally get one delivered you'll know which method worked.

, They really have do not have anything  to do with each other as far as code and numbering goes, but I really do not fully understand your question or where you are going with this.  (the part about the user setup ?)

Groups are more powerful than access levels and are meant to replace them. Access Levels are only there for backward compatibilty with older versions. ,

Some of our users complained that their users id and passwords are sent in the clear. So we decided to invest in an SSL certificate from Verisign. It has been tested fine with all forms and pages in ASPProtect version 6. The only remaining page which I am not sure how to protect is the home page. Let's say my home page is http://www.MyDomain.com/index.asp. When the user goes to this link he/she will be presented with the check_user_inc.asp page so he/she can enter their ID and PW. So how to make the login information send from this page thru HTTPS?

, Those access levels are not used and are nothing to worry about. They are left over from the ASPProtect core which I used for the users area of ASPBanner.

I am not sure what you did but its not a none, Unless I know more I can not make any guesses what happened. I would make sure in the database that the user is active and the expiration date field for them if there is one is empty,

that really does not make any sense...

I dont know what else to tell you as this really shouldn't be anything too difficult to sort out...

redirection based on criteria is not something aspprotect does by default... I try to help a bit... I've shown everyone how to do it in this thread...I know plenty of people doing it... I've done it myself... I know it works

let me ask you this... are you using ASPProtect 6 with the Option Pack ?
I assume you must be or you would not have the Groups feature ?
And you asked this question in the ASPProtect 6 section.

but then maybe your using 7.. I do not know

this should all work the same either way

,

I was told by my ISP to use localhost and it should work and it does not. It does not require authentication to send e-mails.

Any other ideas?

 

 

Thanks

, That was it - Thanks!, I didn't think that was it, but just to prove, I just viewed the same album from 2 different IP's.  It did not increment the "hits".   , also.. you could try chaning your connection string to set the current language to english like in this example..

BannerConnectionString = "Provider=sqloledb;Data Source=127.0.0.1;Initial Catalog=aspbanner;User Id=aspbanneruser;Password=temp;Current
Language=English
;"

I do not know if that actually works but from what I have been researching it looks valid and it may solve your problem.

Also: The value may need to be Current Language=us_english

You'll have to try them, OMFG,

Which page should a user see next after completing a Paypal transaction?  Where do I set that?

Nick

 

,

On second thought guys, it would must easier to change the code using modulus as follows:

<% If PicIndex mod 6 = 0 THEN %> 
      </tr>    
      <tr>
<% End If %>

This will end each row and create a new row after each 6th picture. It'll be must easier code to work with and change.  This code must be placed in the PicIndex For Loop.

If you have any questions, JPortnoy@Checkernet.com

,

here is a thread that may help you if this is what you were getting at


http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo389-1.htm

,

Hope the wedding went well.  I have one this weekend.

I was successful at performing an upload.  The free upload software was either not configure properly (probably) or not working.  I downloaded the trial version of softartisan's upload (which is like over $300) and it started working. 

Can more than one photo be uploaded at one time (like a whole folder full of photos) or does each have to be done individually?

,

Hi

I downloaded the .chm format installation documentation but when I open it I get the index but can't see any of the pages so am a bit stuck.

, I assume so you can clean up users that register, but then never pay ?,

I'm using the groups protect feature on my pages. None of them seem to close the session after clicking 'logoff'. I can tell because if I hit the back button and return to the group-protected page, hit 'refresh', the page refreshes, I'm not asked to log in again.

On the other hand, when I open a page that's protected by an access level and click 'logoff' (uses same logoff asp file to logoff), it seems to work fine - if I go back a page and refresh, it asks me to log in.

Just wondering - is anybody else having problems like this? Maybe I screwed something up in the few adjustments I made a while back. Any idea what it might be?

,

<%@ LANGUAGE="VBSCRIPT" %>
<!--#INCLUDE FILE="check_user_inc.asp"-->
 
<%
    Response.Write(Session("Groups"))
%>

,

Yes I did see that, and created the new project as well as imported the DLL's. I guess my question is; is it as easy as rename the file from aspprotectlogin.aspx to login.aspx and then running the release to regenerate? I know this is a novice question as I am a novice to .NET but the fastest way to learn is to do. Also I know you’re an advanced programmer with better things to do so if I’m stepping over the line from technical help to basic programming I should already know, feel free to point me somewhere ells.

,

Or at least I think so.  I have been trying to get this software to work so I can see if it meets our needs for an upgrade purchare. Here is my error.

Microsoft JET Database Engine error '80040e10'

No value given for one or more required parameters.

/aspprotect/scripts/populate_config_variables_inc.asp, line 15

My provider says that the problem is NOT on there end, that it is a problem with the code.  I think that it is a database connection problem.  Can you please help.  Below is my connection string based on what the setup page directed me to do:

ConnectionString = "data source=\\NAWINFS03\home\users\web\b1347\rh.957theride\asppro tect\data\database\ASPProtect_access2002.mdb; Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;Jet OLEDB:Database Password=temp"

When I first set up the program I got this error:

Provider error '8000ffff'
Catastrophic failure
/aspprotect/scripts/populate_config_variables_inc.asp, line 11

Once again, the looked into it and said the permissions were fine and that the code was most likely bad.  But then the errror changed to the one that I first listed.  Which is the one I am currently getting. 

BTW here is the page address

http://www.957theride.com/aspprotect/password_admin/get_me_i n.asp

Thank you!

,

When I add a user, I can not activat it.

It sends me back to log on and will now allow me to log in as admin???

I can restart the APP and log in as Admin, but the user I added

is still not activated??

My system will also not allow me to set the Stay Loged in FLag.

It just ignores it....

 

 

,

pretty clever...

If anyone is interested in what the Mod function actually does this article explains it nicely. They even use it for the same purpose in the examples.

http://www.asp101.com/articles/steven/mod/default.asp

cwilliams38210.6791898148,

Okay, thanks, I'm going to change the method tonight and see if it makes a difference

I'll report back

Dave

,

How can I make so it goes to certain webpages if user enters valid username and password??

I suppose user enters its information on check_user_inc.asp page, and username and password are stored on SQL database.

Thanks

 

, The way the application works is one separate installation and database is required for each (IIS Application).... not only is it a licensing thing but it is also the nature of (forms based authentication) because every application in IIS has it's own set of application and session variables and they can not be shared with other various IIS applications.

That being said if you plan to run a separate install for each web/IIS application buying new licenses is fine

If you want to run one installation and database and share that with other web.IIS applications it is not technically possible.

Each web/IIS application requires a seperate install of ASPProtect.NET,

What am i supposed to do now... i do have another member server that is not a domain controller-

 

However, i have like 5 websites running on this domain controller already. I have thought about this before how its a HUGE security risk but it will take too long to configure everything on the other computer :(

,

ok.. Chris.. I am now kicking myself in the butt.  In the setting section, I had to redirect certain urls and directories to the right spot.  I forgot that I renamed the root folder. 

 

Thank you, thus far for your continued help.  It is greatly appreciate.

 

,

For pay signups you set the groups during signup it like this thread tells you to

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo186-1.htm

only difference is you need to specify the groups info like so
(basically getting rid of the commas and just leaving behind the group numbers with a * around everything)

Also be sure to have no double asterisks

so, *1*,*2* would just be *1*2*

so, *1*,*2*,*5* would just be *1*2*5*

cwilliams38460.5969444444,
This post unfortutely needs to be here because this application has been the biggest pain in the neck for me you could possibly imagine. This is not because of problems with the application, but because of people's general lack of knowlegde regarding ASP.NET. This post totally voices my stance on what sort of knowledge you need to have and also the fact that I am not going to support anything but general installation on a correctly and professionaly set up live server.

ASPProtect.NET is a great application but using ASP.NET requires a lot more basic knowledge than using classic ASP and there are a lot of basic low level ASP.NET things that need to be set up correctly for an application like ASPProtect.NET to run. These are things I do not cover because you should know the ASP.NET basics when using an application as complex as this. It's just that I don't have time to nor should I have to teach people the basics of ASP.NET. I don't charge nearly enough for ASPProtect.NET to offer that kind of support.

So, I will say it one more time. ASPProtect.NET is targeted towards experienced Visual Studio.NET developers that know how to work with Code Behind VB.NET and are familiar with basic ASP concepts such as IIS application settings, the .NET framework, the
aspnet_client folder, and the basics of the web.config file.  If you are using ASP.NET for whatever reason you need to know about these things. The best way is to get some good books and do set up ASP.NET on a local development machine so you can start learning.

If you are one of the ASP.NET challenged let me say this as well.

Stick with Classic ASP. ASP.NET is a step in the wrong direction for the average user which I like to refer to as "Joe Coder". Classic ASP is very powerful and easy to pick up. ASP.NET is not easy to pick up and never will be for a lot of people. In my opinion it’s actually the wrong technology to use for anyone other than big corporations who need extreme scalability in their applications or for the hobbyist or object oriented programmer who just wants to use the latest and greatest.  Ask yourself if you really want to deal with compiling Code Behind code each time you make changes to your web site as opposed to just editing some files in notepad real quick like you can do with classic ASP ? Do you have the money to purchase and use Visual Studio.NET or are you going to struggle with compiling all your ASP.NET pages using a command line compiler and a batch file ? Yes, you can build ASP.NET code that isn't code behind but why even bother if that is the case because your missing the point of ASP.NET if you do that and missing out on a lot of powerful new features and concepts.

When I do custom projects for bigger clients I usually end up using ASP.NET because they want to go that way and understand the time and money involved. When I do any of my own projects I use Classic ASP because the truth is you can still make some rockin busy scalable web sites with Classic ASP just like you can still make great web sites with CGI, PP, Cold Fusion.. etc etc. Look around the web because a lot of the biggest sites out there still use those scripting technologies and their stuff runs very well. ASP.NET is a lot of hype and although some things about it are plain awesome it is an environment best suited for real object oriented programmers, not the weekend code warriors.

The other thing to keep in mind about classic ASP is the shear abundance of applications and scripts available for it. ASP.NET can be expensive for that reason alone as there still is a shortage of good time tested applications out there and what is out there is always priced a lot higher.

In addition to that half of the ASP.NET applications out there are just half baked poorly converted versions of their Classic ASP counterparts. Is that the kind of thing you want to sink twice the money into or would you rather have something that runs well and has been tweaked year after year into a rock solid product?

To make things worse a lot of the hosting companies out there offering ASP.NET hosting are severely limiting the basic abilities of ASP.NET because of various security concerns. This means if you go with a Host that does that 75% of the asp.net stuff out there won't run on the hosted server. Isn't that wonderful ?

Now, Let's make things even worse. So far every time Microsoft has released a new version of ASP.NET a lot of things from the previous version have stopped working and needed to be modified to work correctly. Is that really something you will have the time, resources, and energy to deal with.

You may ask "but is classic ASP going to be around 5 years from now?" Though you never really know until the new version of windows server ships I say "Hell Yes" it will be. According to my sources at Port80 Software who work very closely with the folks at Microsoft (as well as many other sources out there) it will almost certainly be in Longhorn which is the next version of Windows Server. Longhorn probably won't come out until 2007 and will be popular for 3-4 years after that. The version of windows server after that will most likely support Classic ASP as well and if it doesn't I am sure there will be a way to make ASP run on it.  If you really look around a lot of hosting companies are still running Windows Server 2000 which is 5 years old at the moment. The bottom line is Classic ASP helped put Microsoft web technologies on the map. Microsoft can not simply drop it because if they do they give up a dominate market share to the scripting competition being PHP, CGI, Cold Fusion.. etc etc PHP for instance a huge installed base on many platforms which are essentially free. ASP.NET can not compete with that in any way and not supporting Classic ASP would put microsoft in a bad position.

Take it from me. If you are a weekend code warrior/script kiddie. You'll be a lot happier sticking with classic ASP. You will also have save a lot of money and you can still have great web sites. There are tons of great applications out there in ASP and ASP still is and always will be the easiest scripting language to work with and learn. Better yet look around on sites like www.4guysfromrolla.com and see if you actually understand any of the latest articles. If it looks like Greek to you that is yet another sign that you should stick to classic ASP.

Personally, I will be focusing just as much time and effort on ASP.NET as I will on Classic ASP in the years to come for a few reasons.
  1. Because I sell software I obviously need to convert/re-write most of my appIications to work with ASP.NET. My living may eventually depend on it.
     
  2. Because I love using the latest technologies I want to continue to develop using ASP.NET.
     
  3. Because I do many custom projects for various clients using ASP.NET is a must.
  4. Because in some cases using ASP.NET over classic ASP makes total sense.

Just don't fall for the HYPE folks. I am one of the few established developers out there that has a set of Balls and is willing to put the truth out there and see past the bullsh*t. If you go ASP.NET do it because you seriosuly think you need the power and scalabilty and money and time is not an issue or because you are a hobbiest and object oriented programmer who likes working with and has time to work with the latest and greatest web scripting technolgies out there. I truly believe that so far ASP.NET is as much a success as it is a failure. I am sure some of you out there know what I mean by that.

All this being said you should also realize that ASPProtect.NET is a little different than your average ASP.NET application because it uses a lot of advanced ASP.NET techniques and you essentially use it to password protect your existing scripts meaning you need to integrate your stuff with our stuff in a sense. If you just go buy some random ASP.NET application like a classifieds system or storefront it is probably just going to run on it's own an therefore will be a lot easier to set up and deal with.

Here are some links you folks should read as well.
http://rtfm.atrax.co.uk/infinitemonkeys/articles/asp/905.asp
http://www.itnewsgroups.net/group/microsoft.public.inetserve r.asp.general/topic2074.aspx
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;%5Bln%5D;L ifeWin

Chris Willians
http://www.cjwsoft.com/about.asp

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Parent Paths ?

http://support.cjwsoft.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5&P N=1


 

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grrrrrr

As far as the users thing... my fault that was setup wrong in the settings of the admin login page.

but still dont have a solution for what im trying to do

,

I cleaned up the code as you suggested, and I still can't get the images to display without the whitespace around it.

How do I download the ASP version?  I'll give it a try.

Thanks for your help,
JDooley

,

It's just a generic error that means one of 1000 different things is wrong.. there is a lot of information on in in these forums as well as links to articles about it.

http://support.cjwsoft.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27& PN=1

usually it means permissions to the database folder are incorrect or the physical path you are specifying for your dsn-less connection is invalid..

everything has to be perfect

 

cwilliams38370.5271296296, Okay, got it!!  just in case anyone else is having the same problem, after creating the new thumbnails using the "generate_new_thumbnails.asp".  Turn off the random photo selection for a 10 minutes or so, and then turn it back on.  
bwinklesky38324.5085069444, Ahhh, I see it, thanks that was the ticket.

,

We can't seem to find the purchase emails for this install of ASPProtect.

It would have been in May 2004 for NetOptions LLC or CareerMatrix.com

We noticed it should have been v6 of ASPProtect.

Can you resend the download links?

, Then you should have current enough code.

If you PM me the encryption key you are using and the plain text password for this user I can see if I can reproduce the error and come up with a fix.

I believe you found one of the rare examples where the encryption creates a strange character that messes up things. Sometimes those characters are not even visable.

Changing the password should solve the problem in the meantime., That's because when the page rebuilds, it uses the default number of users per page setting. You'd have to modify that default setting to have it do things differently.  I used to have mine set to 500 users, until I got past 300... then it wasn't fun to show all users on the page anymore.  I now like 10 per page and searching for specific users as needed.

But that's me. If you hack a COPY of your default.asp file (with the original backed up as above), you can get the value set to one you prefer.

If you want me to find the value, post and I'll look for it later on. If you want to find it yourself, happy hunting! Just be sure to have a backup in case you do the wrongest thing possible in your haxxoring.
,


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