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Blog Entry: 3/25/2006 4:44:07 PM

I just installed ASPProtect on my site. The instructions were definately on the target. Very very good instructions.

But... Isn't there always a but ???

I needed to setup my site with MS SQL and it is hosted so I don't have Enterprise Manager. I tried the web based Enterprise Manager and any other one I could find. But, I kept getting errors when trying to use the SQL Script.

I finally had to go back to my work where we do have the licenses and get an SQL Admin to use Enterprise Manager to run the script and it worked finally.

I don't know if this is a common problem ??? But, maybe you would want to look at the SQL Server script or make a different version that would work with the Web Based SQL manager.

Thanks

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In addition to that I just noticed the </href> you have in there.. man that is some scary stuff you came up with.. that may appear to work and make a link but it is not correct. Each link will work but never truly be closed.

That is just not valid proper use of the anchor tag.
You make a link in html like so

<a href = "somepage.htm">somepage.htm</a>
http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_a.asp

Then your surrounding each link with <span lang="en-us"> </span>
Not sure why ?

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Terribly sorry, but we are not software-technical.  So can you please tell us exactly which folder the database would be in.

Thanks in advance.

, Say, I just thought of one last thing.

Your not by any chance running something like norton antivirus with norton script blocker on that server are you ?

It can cause issues when ASP uses the filesystem object and cause never ending page hangs like you are having.

There are other apps as well that can cause it to hang.

http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2180

And ASPProtect does use the filesystem object.,

You cant do it from initial lohin, but you can do it from the time of registration signup.
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo170-1.htm

As for the emailing thing it is most likely an email sending issue more than a code problem. For example spam filters incorrectly grabiing those emails or something of that nature..

Best thing to do is try different things for emailing options until you get something that works. I suggest using CDOSYS with a real email server and using a valid email account for yourself at that email domain. SMTP authentication if necessary. This will ensure the emails sent have valid MX records and dont get treated as spam.

 

, actually, looks like its 8.95 a month now for a pretty slick plan
http://www.alentus.com/hosting/valueplan.asp,

yup. that is correct... they can't log in so they can't see any pages you protect

its the nature of forms based authetication

,

Regarding hosting companies..

Now.. obviously if you are hosting on someone elses server you may not be able to set permissions like this.

Ultimately, if you are hosting somewhere and ASP and Database connectivity is part of your hosting plan. It is the hosting company's responsibility to set these permissions for you when asked or to give you a special interface to do so on your own. If they are not helping you do this then maybe it is time to get a hosting company that is serious about your ASP Hosting Needs.

Also... JUST TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR

The permissions we are talking about cannot be set via FTP or Frontpage access to your web site. They must be set like shown above or via a special interface meant to set the permissions correctly. For all you people out there messing with the permissions you see in FTP and Frontpage.. you are wasting your time and possibly creating problems in your web.

All ASP scripts that communicate with an Access Database, Upload Pictures, Modify Text files.... are going to need these permissions set in some way or another. We have no control over that fact.

cwilliams38360.69125,

After understanding how the count works i checked the IP in the db.  They are all set to the same IP (my web server) no matter what ip is doing the viewing.  This is probably due to my ISA2004 firewall that is posting the ip address of the web server with each log on.  So, can you help me with where the code would be to modify so the db does not get updated?  I risk the refresh problem, don't think it is an issue with me.

 

Thanks,

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thats not good.. its a web server configuration issue of some sorts ?

post is a common method for forms.. if it is not supported it is something you should ask the server admins about.

Is this a windows based web server running true microsoft ASP because that error is usally associated with non windows IIS based web servers from what I can see by doing a google search ?

ASPProtect only runs on windows servers running IIS and True Microsoft ASP.
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo165-1.htm

My guess is your web server is running Apache Unix or something like that.

, ok, I got it all sorted out for you and aspupload seems to be working now.

Basically they seem to have an odd version of it installed and I had to tweak the code a little. I also uploaded the server info page in the admin area to test for it.

Just back up the gallery folder so you have a backup copy of the modified code.

CJW , Hi there...

I'm using the gallery script with ASPImage for uploading and resizing. I bought this script and the componant for the the auto-thumbnailing feature, and it is indeed uploading and resizing and creating a thumbnail.

But the thumbnail is *tiny* at 64px wide. I need to change the width, but I can't find anything in ASP Gallery or ASPImage to indicate where that width is set. Can anyone help?

Thanks!
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If they changed the paths they moved the site.

That means permissions for the database folder must be set again.

If permissions are not set and you are not using the correct new path info then you will still get errors.

Those errors the server reports back and quite generic and do no mean exactly what they say. They just mean everything is not perfect.

And everything just has to be perfect..

cwilliams38306.5069328704, no, but in the standard version it probably will not run so great with more than 75 or so.

The unlimited version can handle pretty much whatever.,

is that lindsey lohan and her fake boobs as ur avatar?

I am installing IIS and all of its glory on the other computer now... gotta love remote desktop (the pc is at work  )

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sure and thats probably what you should do... that pure asp upload thing must not be able to handle the size of your import file... another thing which can very .. also some versions of IIS require registry changes to upload bigger files via asp code alone

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Hi,

How do you know permissions are ok in that folder ?
Please tell me more on how they were set.

Please read through my article on how they are set correctly.
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo136-1.htm

Often times they are not set correctly or people thingk they set them somehow but in fact did not do it the correct way.

I would also suggest using the "test_physical_path.asp" page in the "extras" folder to verify if the path you are using to the database mdb file is in fact correct. That page should work whether permissions are set or not. At least then you will know if the path is correct or not and you can go from there.

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Running in parallel for testing is actually a smart way to do it, but the truth is you don't use anything from version 6 except the upgraded database (we have a tutorial on how to upgrade the database)

Version 7 was a drastic change /rewrite to all of the asp files that come with the application. So you will be starting out with fresh version 7 ".asp" files and folders... You will also find that once you get version 7 running that editing certain things like the look of the users area and the login screens is much easier to do.

That being said any of your own ".asp" pages that you protect use the same protection code they always did, so there will be no drastic changes needed there when you do finalize the upgrade.



If using MSACCESS as the database I suggest installing the application somewhere in your web and using a fresh ASPProtect 7 database. Once you are familiar with the setup and everything is working fine. Attempt the database conversion and when your done stick your converted database in there and see if everything is ok.

Also, if you already purchased the application download the latest version before doing the install. It's the same download URL. If you don't have it email me and I can hook you up. I have added some new features and fixed a couple minor things since it's release.

So far the feedback on version 7 has been awesome..

cwilliams38414.0133680556,

Actually it would because you would just count records for that user that are also active

and yes, users cant delete albums.. they can only turn them off which really means the albums lose their active status

only the admin can truly delete an album the way the code is
(that's just the way I did it for some reason.. I don't remember why)

cwilliams38433.0343865741,

I'm using Aspimage and SQL. Photos are 2464 x 1632 px, tried the upload and import directory methods, same results: thumbnails ok, full images 0 bytes.

ServerSoftware Microsoft-IIS/6.0
ServerName www.larrysampas.com
ServerProtocol HTTP/1.1
PathInfo /gallery2/extras
PathTranslated d:\Customers\user1095000\www\gallery2\extras
 
FILE SYSTEM OBJECT Installed
ADODB (ActiveX Data Object) Version: 1.2 Installed  
CDONTS Version: 2.80 Installed  
SMTPMail Version: SMTPMail Retail Version V2, 2, 1, 0 Installed  
JMail Version: 4.1.2 Installed  
AspEmail Installed
AspMail Installed
SAFILEUP Installed
Dundas Upload Not Installed  
ASPImage Version: 2.31 Installed  
AspJpeg Not Installed  
ImgWriter Not Installed  
 
Script Engine 
Type VBScript
Version 5.6
Build 8515

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thanks.. it was not taken as a complaint.
I just wanted to explain

When you said you tried using the web version of sql manager. Did you use the microsoft one I link to here "just curious"

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo127-1.htm

 

, Lastly, I put there information here to help, but please don't ask me any questions about it.

I am not microsoft SQL server support. If this doesn't work for you simply start troubleshooting and doing google searches like I do. ,

Is there anyway to limit the number of Albums each user can make?

, Can I copy the file into the export folder and then the import user function?,

Now that I really think about it.. instead of logging that info to a text file and worrying about folder permissions you could probably just save the post info into an application variable during the paypal ipn.asp post like so

For Each Item In Request.Form
formdata = formdata & vbCrLf & Item & "=" & Request.Form(Item) & vbCrLf
Next

Application("PayPalPost") = formdata & " - " & NOW



then anytime you wanted to see if that info was there or when it happened you could make a simple asp page in your site to display the results like so

<%
Response.Write "(" & Application("PayPalPost") & ")"
%>

cwilliams38421.6747453704,

Right,  I've done that.  My concern is that it will time out again while I'm trying to import the file.

The import/export manager does not show up under the users tab when I log in normally.  I have to pull up the page in frontpage and then preview it a browser to get it to show.

, do you want my help making the database with your import file ?, i was only kidding!! ,

Hi,

I can't seem to find the code where it limits the upload file size. I want to limit the upload size to 1.5 mg for all users. Also I've noticed that the 500 pix doesn't seem to work. As in if an image is bigger than 500 pix the script still uploads it. i am using Upload_post_VBSCRIPT.ASP.

Thanks

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The links to view that info are on the main users screen of the admin area.

Down below...

They wont show up unless you have that stuff enabled in the settings screen as well.

 

, Chris,

Thanks for the reply. It all makes sense.

I have gone with your first option but here is the problem:

I have moved the password protected page from the detail page with the querystring to the straight .asp page. This obviously fixes the previous error.

Once someone has logged in they are then presented with a list of links to the previously protected pricelist detail pages (example - "somepage.asp?ID=3""). They are then able to access the pricelists.

The problem is that if someone copies the pricelist URL they are then able to pass it on to someone else and bypass the password protection.

If I also password protect the pricelist pages then someone will have to login twice.

Is there some code that i can add that will simply check that they have logged in otherwise kick them back out to the protected .asp page.

All code in your documentation tends to open the login page regardless of whether you have previously logged in.


Thanks,

Stuart

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The redirection at 1st login feature is supposed to work like I explain in this thread.

http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo385-1.htm

Though what you just said is a bit confusing it sounds like you have some sort of browser problem and it is doing the redirect every single time. ?

I would suggest reseting all your browser settings to normal and making sure cookies are enabled because forms based authentication uses session variables and cookies must be enabled for session variables to work correctly. If not something like this could happen as the redirection at 1st login would happen over and over every time.

So try it on other computers and try with firefox as well as IE. Many people go nuts with their browser settings and way too much stuff blocked which can cuse all sorts of issues. Also some script blocking and firewall software can cause problems so disable all of that when testing.

You may also have created some sort of endless loop. (I really need to know way more information on what you did to know that for sure)

You may also want to consider doing your redirects manually meaning you protect a a page and right after the protection you use regular ASP redirect statements to redirect the user whevever you like based on their session info which is available to easily check immediatly after someone gets through the authentication.

I still stand behind my statements that redirection is not good site design. You really really need to understand and plan your ASP pages as well as have a very good understanding of the session and how all of that works if you use redirection with a password authentication scenario. You should never be redirecting someone to an ".htm" pages except during testing because you wont be able to stop users who are not supposed to go there from going there directly.

, no the "expected path" is something that gets generated for you if you have parent paths enabled. to help you fill things in correctly...

basically if parent paths are enabled it shows you what the path should be for each path field on the settings page... if parent paths are disabled there will be nothing to the right of expected path for technical reasons (lack of being able to do a "../../" to figure out the paths more or less)

in that case there is a file called "expected_paths" in the data folder that you can run to tell you the expected path info
,

ya,

any variation of a site url is going to have its own set of application and session variables.. soy you have to be consistant with your navigation links

example (for anyone that comes across this thread)

http://www.examplesite.com/somepage.asp

is going to have a different set of application and session variables then

http://examplesite.com/somepage.asp

even though they are basically the same page

, YAY FOR ASPPROTECT 7!!!

Now I need to know... how can I automate PayPal subscriptions and purchases? I'd like it so that once PayPal gets its money, my accounts get marked active.

Now, the documentation on this site currently says, to point the IPN post action to a null page. Yet, I see an IPN.asp in my files for PayPal subs and PayPal purchases...  Looking over the code there, I see actions to make accounts active and stuff like that. Is the page ready for prime time, or should I hold off for a new version?
cwilliams38421.7014814815,

no, you cannot unless you plan to write a lot of custom code.

That is why the option pack has groups which eliminate the need to use access levels because groups can do everything access levels can and more.

There is an article here regarding that.
http://support.cjwsoft.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32& PN=1

 

cwilliams38303.5555439815,

I really do not know to tell you the truth. I'll do some research.

The script only allows .jpg, .jpeg, and .gif extensions.

If someone uploads a file called... "filename.vbs.jpeg" with bad vbscript in it I seriously doubt anything can happen because of it because of the extension.

But I really do not know.

It has never happened to any sites I have or know of.

 

cwilliams38447.0491435185,

Is it possible to set the user account time limits when they register? I am using email verification and am trying to have their accout expire 32 days after their initial login.

Also I have an issue with the email notification not notifying me when a new user logs in. It does a beautiful job notifying the new user.  I do not understand why my server will send to one and not the other, I ahve searched the links but none seem to answer this.

Thank you for your help and insight

, and did you response.write that session value to see if it holds anything to ensure it is being set ,

The Double DIM needs to be removed for this code to work properly.

<%
Dim BannerZone, BannerConnectionString, BannerDatabaseType, ConnBannerSystem
Dim CmdCheckUser, CmdGetConfiguration, App_Name, Config_SQL, BodyTag, BanDataConn
Dim CmdBannerTemp, CmdGetZones, ZoneString, ZoneArray, ZoneIndex, CmdUpdateWaiting
Dim CmdUpdateExpired, CmdRetrieveImpLimitedAds, CmdRetrieveImpressions
Dim CmdUpdateImpHit, CmdRetrieveAds, CycleBannerTotal, CycleList, NewCycleList
Dim Dim LoopBanner, CycleLoop, CycleListArray, CycleListArrayIndex, BannerCycleData
Dim Banner_Array, CurrentBanner, NewCycleListArray, Banner_Array2, LocationIndex
Dim Stop_Processing, Keep_Processing, CmdUpdateStats
%>

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